@HattabAlMisri@KashmiriHanbali@StrangerAthari@HattabAlMisri
Actually he wasn't consistent because at the end of the fatwa, he literally admits that it's just a "preference" not to pray behind such a person "out of caution".
That contradicts the entire idea that such a person wasn't fit to be an imam in the first place.
@AhmedTayy@Starbase660647 Traffic lights legislation is literally legislative. All secular laws are legislative. Your first paragraph doesn't make sense.
But your second paragraph makes sense. But do you realize that it would be a tiny part of overall legislation? Do you understand how small it is?
@Ahmedtayy@Starbase660647
It's the details which matter.
Secular law is any law which is derived from state or civil authority instead of the Deen.
E.g. traffic lights is secular law.
I doubt either of you believe it is Kufr.
But you see, most laws (easily over 95%) are exactly of that nature. That's an objective fact.
@WDLD0712@Sirwilliam___7 That's excellent. May Allah give you success.
Honouring the symbols of Allah (masjids, halal meat etc.) is a sign of piety. And the opposite (contempt for them) is a sign of hypocrisy.
"And whoever honors the symbols of Allah - indeed, it is from the piety of hearts." [22:32]
@N4w4fKholin Yep. I think the Qur'an 3:71 captures it nicely:
يَـٰٓأَهْلَ ٱلْكِتَـٰبِ لِمَ تَلْبِسُونَ ٱلْحَقَّ بِٱلْبَـٰطِلِ وَتَكْتُمُونَ ٱلْحَقَّ وَأَنتُمْ تَعْلَمُونَ
"O People of the Book! Why do you mix the truth with falsehood and conceal the truth knowingly?"
@DrShadeeElmasry@HassanShibly Of course Dr Shadee. I'm with you 100% on that.
But he wants them to lose. He's not merely saying "I'm not joining the political field".
He wants them to lose even though he would find no issue with voting for them if it was a Non-Muslim.
Is this what our faith requires? 👇
@DrShadeeElmasry@HassanShibly Why do some Muslims selectively apply the principle of maslaha for non-Muslims only?!
They're happy to vote en masse for non-Muslim progressive for maslaha reasons but freak out over a Muslim.
Is there anything in our faith which mandates this attitude? (4/4)
@DrShadeeElmasry@HassanShibly To Hassan's credit, he stood up for Ilhan Omar many times (even though Ilhan also joined the progressive platform including endorsing pride!)
The genocide in Gaza proved beyond all doubt that we must stop tearing each other apart on Aqeedah litmus tests in politics (3/n)
@StrangerAthari But there's no evidence that Abu Bakr considered every one he fought as apostates. The mere fighting them is not evidence of their apostasy.
There were groups & tribes who did apostate & rebel against the state under those terms obviously but not everyone was in that category.
Roshan, your intentions are good & of course you have the right to criticise. But your view of politics is far too simplistic.
Muslim politicians/leaders/religious scholars have *always* made political compromises historically. Stretching all the way back to the Companions.
Your simple view that political compromise = faith compromise never existed historically. That interpretation never existed. It's an objective fact. There's no shortage of examples 😁
@AbdullahReads_@mohammed_hijab I just realized that you also believe a woman must have her face covered. How can you possibly believe that, Abdullah?
There's no way you can seriously think that this is the most evidenced position.
Ironically, their only escape from this dilemma is for them to conclude that it was only made to appear Jesus died (Qur'an 4:157). They will have to retreat to the Qur'anic assertion.
This is evidence that unfortunately, most Christians in the online space are extremely indoctrinated. They are not able to follow a simple argument!
The problem isn’t “ceasing to exist”, the problem is whether Jesus died in a real and non trivial way.
Death, is observably and normatively the cessation of bodily and life functions, that is to say, when someone dies, they no longer have control over their body and basic life functions
If Jesus died, it follows that he no longer had control over his body or life functions! But that disqualifies his divinity.
If you say, “Jesus DID have control, he never lost it” then I’m not really sure what it means for Jesus to have died, it seems then that he only pretended to die
This is why it’s a dilemma.
@Faizi536212@Deenresponds@cutthroatfree@AbuAsimHanbali You're making good points. But also we have to keep in mind that Islam is getting attacked 24/7 in the online space. I don't think it's a crazy idea that we need some people devoted full time to defending the Deen & debunking the lies.