Japan is upset India chose ETCS over its proprietary DS-ATC signaling for the bullet train But ETCS is the global rail signaling standard, used by China, Saudi Arabia, South Korea, Australia, Taiwan, and across Europe.
DS-ATC works on Shinkansen lines in Japan and nowhere else. India choosing ETCS means any future high speed corridor can use multiple vendors and interoperate with any rolling stock.
Japan is not complaining about safety, Japan is complaining about losing a permanent customer
India is doing this across sectors now. ETCS over DS-ATC for rail. DAP 2026 demanding indigenous design ownership for defense. UPI instead of adopting Visa and Mastercard protocols for payments.
NCRTC already runs ETCS Level 2 on the Delhi-Meerut RRTS, first deployment of its kind in India. Countries that adopt open global standards get supplier competition and lower prices.
Countries that accept proprietary systems get a single vendor who controls every upgrade for 30 years. India is learning to pick the standard, not the vendor
The funniest part is that Japan uses ETCS on its own network for interoperability. Shinkansen DS-ATC is a legacy format no other country adopted in 60 years.
A Japanese railway engineer published a complaint saying India broke its promise by switching standards. But what he calls a broken promise is India insisting on internationally certified signaling with third-party verification, which DS-ATC did not meet.
India did not break a promise. India asked for a global standard and Japan did not have one ready
@DevkaranCharan8@urvoicematrs@SAMTHEBESTEST_ Most wars are fought over land disputes, that doesn't mean religion is irrelevant.
You think we would have gone to war with Pakistan, China and Sri Lanka if they were Hindu?
Why didn't we go to war with Nepal then?
@DevkaranCharan8@urvoicematrs@SAMTHEBESTEST_ No, the British wouldn't have left India if India hadn't agreed to create separate states for Pakistan.
In fact, the British created Pakistan and East Pakistan just to destabilise future India before leaving. Backfired spectacularly, though, as Pakis are now occupying Britain.
@DevkaranCharan8@urvoicematrs@SAMTHEBESTEST_ No, Christians and Muslims living in India are the sole reason India is getting all the hatred.
Indians commit fewer crimes than all other races, yet we receive the most hate.
The biggest anti-India accounts are run by Muslims and Christians living in India.
How Chinese kids burnt and scarred an innocent animal to death. What use is being great in inventing stuff and technology when you have heartless robots instead of humans in #China#DogKillers#JusticeForWangWang
Pakistan trusts China 6x more than the U.S. Israel trusts the U.S. 4x more than China.
🇵🇰 Pakistan: US 15% — China 90% (+75)
🇮🇱 Israel: US 81% — China 19% (-62)
🇯🇵 Japan: US 50% — China 11% (-39)
🇲🇾 Malaysia: US 19% — China 75% (+56)
🇮🇳 India: US 45% — China 23% (-22)
🇹🇷 Turkey: US 13% — China 43% (+30)
🇵🇱 Poland: US 49% — China 39% (-10)
🇧🇷 Brazil: US 46% — China 47% (-1)
🇬🇧 UK: US 41% — China 46% (+5)
The world is splitting in two.
Source: Pew Research Center, Spring 2026 Global Attitudes Survey
That's exactly how China deals with its Muslims btw 😂👇
Porkis are so fcuking dollar hungry that toss a few bucks their way and they'll convert to Judaism tomorrow, then start p!$$!ng on the Quran while singing the Israeli anthem.
A video of a white guys eating Fresh Cow Dung.
First one says it's just fermented grass, isn't it?
The other one tries to savour it in his mouth,
Says it tastes just like Chocolate.😳
@DevkaranCharan8@urvoicematrs@SAMTHEBESTEST_ Indian independence and partition happened on a religious basis.
All the wars India fought were fought because of religious conflicts.
India is facing all the hatred because of ricebags/mullahs pushing anti-India propaganda while living in India on the welfare of Hindus
Let me explain what this whole fight is about, because it is very different from what the tweet by the Japanese official makes it sound like.
Back in 2015, India and Japan signed the Mumbai to Ahmedabad bullet train deal. 508 km.
India would use Japan's Shinkansen trains and Shinkansen technology. Japan put up a massive soft loan, covering most of the cost, at almost no interest, 0.1 percent, to be repaid over 50 years.
On paper it sounded amazing. Cheap money, world class trains.
But every such loan has a catch. Cheap Japanese money came tied to buying Japanese things.
Their trains. Their coaches. Their signal system. Their price, largely on their terms. That is normal. No country lends billions out of pure love. They lend to sell their own industry.
Then two things went wrong, and this is where his anger comes from.
One, the price.
The Japanese Shinkansen trainsets turned out to be extremely expensive. India felt it was being overcharged for the rolling stock. So, talks hit a wall.
Two, the timeline.
The newest Japanese trains, the E10 series, would reportedly only be ready for India around 2032. India did not want to sit on a finished 1.08 lakh crore track with no trains to run on it.
So India made a call. And this is the part I am proud of.
Instead of waiting and overpaying, India decided to run its own trains first. BEML in Bengaluru got an order to build indigenous high speed trainsets at about 866 crore each, designed to run at 280 kmph.
India will open the line with Indian made trains on the Surat to Vapi stretch around 2027, and bring in the Japanese Shinkansen later.
And the signal system, the thing he is bitter about, India switched from Japan's DS-ATC to the European ETCS Level 2 system.
The same family already used on the Delhi Meerut rapid rail. That is what he means by Japan being excluded from the signal system. India looked at the Japanese option, found it too costly and too slow, and picked a different one.
Now let me be fair, because I cannot be blind just because I am pro India.
He is not lying about everything.
India is genuinely a tough, frustrating negotiator. We change our mind. We push for our own interest till the last minute. We renegotiate things others thought were settled.
To a Japanese official raised on politeness and fixed agreements, this feels like betrayal.
But flip it around and look at it from our seat.
Our job is not to protect Japanese honour. Our job is to get India a bullet train at a fair price, that runs soon, and that builds Indian factories in the process.
On all three, changing course was the right call. Waiting till 2032 and overpaying for imported trains would have been the polite choice. It would also have been the stupid choice.
There is a bigger thing hiding under his frustration, and I think it is the real reason for the anger.
For decades, the deal was simple. Rich countries gave loans and technology, and poorer countries said thank you and bought whatever came bundled with it.
You took the money, you took their trains, you did not argue.
India argued. India took the loan, then insisted on its own trains, its own signal system, its own factories getting the work. We used their money to build our capability instead of just renting theirs.
That is what stings them. Not that we were reckless. That we refused to stay the junior partner in our own project.
I will give the Japanese side genuine credit.
Their engineering is world class. In 60 years, the Shinkansen has never had a passenger death from a derailment or collision.
That safety record is worth respecting. Their frustration with our chaos is also probably fair on a human level. Working with India can be maddening. Anyone who has managed an Indian project knows this.
For me, the real issue is what’s in it for our country.
India has the track. India is building its own trains for it. India picked its own signal system.
India got a 50 year loan at almost zero interest. And India will still get the Shinkansen later, on better terms than the original bundle.
If that is what Indian recklessness produces, I will take it every single time.
Be tough. Be a nightmare to negotiate with. Just make sure the country wins at the end of it. :)