@waitbutwhy Everything we experience is filtered through consciousness and yet most people don't spend even a single moment training the ability to use it more effectively or see it more clearly, in spite of great tools being free and having been honed over 1000s of years
This took mye back to the 18 days I lived with my phone turned off a few month ago
Inevitably I slipped back
I think I'm going to buy a nokia 110 4g and keep my smart phone turned off and at hand "in case of emergency".
Wanna join the party?
Officially 1 month since I switched to a flip phone.
- Everyone is more severely addicted to their smartphones than I thought. Once you have a dumbphone, you'll frequently find yourself as the only person in the room not on their phone. It's not just teenagers, it's parents and adults of all ages. It's like everyone is stuck in a trance. 75+ year olds might be the only exception.
- All the objections I previously had for getting a dumbphone have turned out to be overblown and/or solvable. My iPhone addiction had fed my brain excuses to not do this earlier. If you really want to make the switch, you can.
- I've felt embarrassed to pull out my flip phone in public at times, for fear of being different or drawing too much attention to myself. But I have learned to just own up to it. Most people end up saying something like "Oh, I probably should do that too."
- I am using my brain more. Even though my flip phone has Waze, I find myself memorizing maps and roads. I'm more bored and get lost in my thoughts. I'm using paper and pen more. Increased desire for tangible things > digital things.
Overall, it has been a great experience and I plan on never going back.
@gripe1918@Aella_Girl My question was literal. I wasn't making a point.
I'm genuinely curious what you think was the best example of civilization going well
@gripe1918@Aella_Girl My question was literal. I wasn't making a point.
I'm genuinely curious what you think was the best example of civilization going well
@phenoatypical I agree that pension payments are wild
PhDs less so. Some people like doing a PhD & they get $s for it
Also, if they beleive radical transformation is more than 4 years out they still want a sense of purpose and a source of income, and radical lifestyle change is hard for many
The case for the middle ground work wise is people need to pay the bills, but most people neither want to nor have the capacity (or opportunity) to work 24/7
People want balance, even if the world is going to end in a year and they need to be able to afford to eat (most people live paycheck to paycheck)
The leading builders of AI and the most advanced practitioners of relational and emotional skills exist in siloed realms. This is an existential alignment problem.
Almost nothing is being done to prepare society for what may be coming: rapid, radical transformation on a never before seen scale.
The leading voices think we're on the cusp of having an agentic entity more capable than humanity with a real chance of never before seen catastrophic outcomes, but this message is not getting through.
That message isn't getting through. The people least reached by the current conversation are those who don't operate from a cognitive, left-brained, STEM-oriented worldview. i.e. Most people.
The gap, I believe, is relational and emotional.
I see again and again in my work with individuals, teams, communities and couples. It's hard for people to get each other when emotions aren't fully felt, or aren't communicated. This cashes out in coordination failures.
AI safety people who can't process what they're carrying but also can't communicate it in a way that people outside their bubble can feel it.
There are tools that radically change this. The communities that have mastered them are niche and largely disconnected from the x-risk dialogue.
Connecting the two would, I think, meaningfully increase the prospects of successful global coordination, and reduce the amount that leaders act out of alignment with what they claim they want: what is best, long-term for life on earth.
AI safety discourse is missing something fundamental. Itโs overwhelming cognitive. Of course, the technicals are essential.
But, most people arenโt Rationalist, STEM nerds, so most check-out upon hearing them
@justavagrant_ Would love to hear more!
I'm curious what you mean when you say you lived it.
And who did you try to talk about it with and from what angle?
AI safety discourse is missing something fundamental. Itโs overwhelming cognitive. Of course, the technicals are essential.
But, most people arenโt Rationalist, STEM nerds, so most check-out upon hearing them
Who's prepping society at large for what's about to happen as AI continues to accelerate to greater and greater capabilities, transforming life as we know it in it's wake?
Perhaps, thereโs still time to start amping up the emotional, relational response to this
Not to damp down an iota of the technical work that is essential, but to compliment it with the human side that seems to be absent in this crucial, brief window
Society at large, globally, is woefully unprepared for when shit starts hitting fans
The emotional and social infrastructure is virtually nowhere to be seen to shepherd in harmony and mutual support when things start to get wild.
So shit, it seems to me, is likely to get wild