@QiaochuYuan no one is 1000x better at persuading everybody
I've met cult leaders; they were 200x better at picking victims and maybe 5x better at generalized persuasion
@Spencer_Gray my ideology doesn't pretend to be inclusive or tolerant of recreational murder rapists, nor do I claim room for them in my ingroup
on the other hand, fourth wave feminism or chud traditionalism love to pretend they're for the benefit of both sexes
a test for any ideology is whether it can coherently describe a "good" member of the implied outgroup. what does a good heterosexual man look like? a good Muslim immigrant? a good working mom? a good rich person?
if an ideology can't offer this, the ideology itself is evil
the MeToo industrial complex takes it as a given that all men are rapey brutes, and as such are only moved by a cold calculus of sex vs punishment and not by a desire to be moral and do good. in that ledger there are only two types of men: predator or coward
obviously if the answer is "a good straight man is celibate until an older woman propositions him", "a good rich person gives all their money to the DSA", "a good Muslim immigrant goes back to England" that's not a real answer
the MeToo industrial complex takes it as a given that all men are rapey brutes, and as such are only moved by a cold calculus of sex vs punishment and not by a desire to be moral and do good. in that ledger there are only two types of men: predator or coward
it's also bizarre to see people sometimes mock putative male cowardice by suggesting that the chance of extreme unjust outcomes (e.g. ostracization, legal ramifications) is low.
But such sophistry misses the point: Undergirding rules was a moral system that was taken seriously
@taoroalin@nosilverv they find a persistent sense of meaning, healthy habits, and a career that provides financial security for their family?
the score in your early 20s is 0-0
@NathanpmYoung@BenShindel the starting lineup is announced an hour before the game and England has both Declan Rice and Marc Guehi starting. both had injury concerns throughout the week, this confirms that they're fit