@Bootstrapbillie@Caporalchamp Make sure Supergirl does well because when it doesn’t we know you guys will play the same bs game anyways.
It’s not even about Zack Snyder at this point, ant true DC fan would look at this universe and know it’s dead on arrival.
@Bootstrapbillie@Caporalchamp This is WB the same studio that basically allowed back to back multiple flops after Zack even left with Hamada and then let James take over when he had no actual track record at DC because suicide squad failed
@Bootstrapbillie@Caporalchamp How are you so dense you believe that the rebates were for the 225M when James Gunn himself never said it was lower than 225M?
Yes the film lost 65M but you, moron that you are said nah the splits is higher so it made more!!
The 42M was what WB got AFTER bonus payouts
@Bootstrapbillie@Caporalchamp Yeah Rebecca Rubin did the 125M article.
Which Hughes just jumped the gun on it saying 100M profit!
Which Thomas Buckley had to clarify how Rebecca possibly came to that conclusion.
Because Rebecca didn’t explain her calculations.
@Bootstrapbillie@Caporalchamp I never once mentioned Forbesfor my core argument beyond saying Mark Hughes is a outside contributor
I mentioned
Rebecca Rubin, Thomas Buckley and Tatiana Siegel
@Bootstrapbillie@Caporalchamp Tatiana Siegel reported Superman’s budget at 225M after the film was released. But we’re supposed to believe a random reinterpretation of the Ohio filing over an actual trade journalist. If it was only 140M-165, where’s Variety, Deadline, THR, or Bloomberg reports saying that?
@Bootstrapbillie@Caporalchamp Should say I’m the guy who says he has sources then doesn’t show them and uses an AI made chart to sound smart without having a conversation or discussion.
@Bootstrapbillie@Caporalchamp Nah I mean inflation and tickets sold aren’t my argument and never have been.
How am I moving the goalposts?
If Superman made LESS than Man of Steel at the Box Office, with no actual sponsor money which they reported for MoS, how did it make 125M?
@Bootstrapbillie@Caporalchamp HBOMax adding not profit as an internal studio streamer. The ancillary numbers of PVOD, Blu Ray, and Secondary Rights need to recoup the 65M loss to break even then add 125M.
Where’d the 190M come from to make this? Is it possible, sure. Plausible? I don’t think so
@Bootstrapbillie@Caporalchamp Firstly as I said the likely profit from the box office using general splits is 285M.
225M Budget and 125M marketing (350M total) - that’s a 65M loss.
I’ll bite and say the 100M or 125M profit may be real but with lower Blu Ray sales since streaming has affected it plus..
@Bootstrapbillie@Caporalchamp Variety, The Wrap, Hollywood Reporter reported the net budget was 225M. James himself contested the supposed 363M saying it was 225M.
@Bootstrapbillie@Caporalchamp Generally everyone agreed that the credits came to the budget which resulted in 225M not 225M then credits to reduce it. None of the trades reported that either. So the credits have to have been before it landed on 225M.
@Bootstrapbillie@Caporalchamp I’ll send the link, I think Bloomberg still has it behind a paywall, though I think other sites summarized it .
Some issues with the math, 225M is the net budget meaning the credits happened before 225M.
The box office profit was 285M with traditional 50% and 40% averages.
@Bootstrapbillie@Caporalchamp Look up Thomas Buckley’s Bloomberg articles.
Rebecca Rubin wrote the Variety article.
I’d send them but some of the articles are behind a paywall.
Feel free to share the 5 you have
@Bootstrapbillie@Caporalchamp Actually the 125M profit that Variety first reported had to be clarified by Bloomberg that it was 125M in a 10 year ancillary cycle.