OddlyLogical

Philosopher, Bio-Ethics and friendly neighborhood Crypto user. ☦️

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@mockingnonsense @ByJimbob May I ask you what is not retarded? Excluding yourself of course.

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I see now, you're right. I definitely don't recognize them as being true. I should have chose better wording, Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't realize Spielberg was Jewish before I commented. I assumed he was atheist by default and then assumed he was going to try disproving God in a general sense and not a specific sense, as in focusing on attacking Christ and the Christian paradigm specifically.

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@HvyWeight85 @JayDyer It makes full sense now.

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@chkrosp @JayDyer I believe EO is beyond a proposition. Because Propostion cannot prove itself to be either true or false on its own.

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Their stance would be God's Providence resided only over scripture. And that's Gods Providence was not over a physical Church or his people who came together in communion for liturgies.

This is why they believe scripture is self authenticating and that faith alone is biblical. Because if they affirm God's Providence resided over the church and his people and that scripture is not self authenticating then they are no longer protestant/evangelical.

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@JakenKy1 @William_TM_ @CasperGaust @PageauJonathan Thats called faith alone doctrine and it's not biblical. That doctrine ignores and marginalizes scripture and ignores the whole of scripture.

So, Im going to assume your a protestant or evangelical. Which means you must believe that scripture is self authenticating?

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@t1gger_warning @JayDyer Im a bit confused on how he thinks he will cause Christians to reconsider their worldview but not cause Jews to reconsider Judaism. This should be interesting I suppose haha

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So is you're Christian position Baptist? No one knows your position or view of salvation. So until I know what those are, what do you want me to do? So far you criticize EO without giving an alternative that is better and more grounded. So you aren't even here in good faith. You want EO to answer your questions while you avoid everyone else's.

Do acknowledge that Baptists churches resemble corporate America more then any form of historical Christianity? I've been to many Baptist churches, I grew up in one. So, Is apostolic succession, sacraments and the whole body being in communion with Christ Biblical? Did the church or Bible come first? Are saints real do they matter at all? I guess we can start there..I never witnessed a single Baptist sermon that even mentioned a Christian saint btw.

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You're not fooling anyone here. You won't even state your view of salvation because it's going to be a complete reductionist protestant view or some dispensationlist view. State your case, argument, anything other than this "High ground attitude". How would you know what being saved is without the Apostolic historical church can you even answer that? Because you bypass the church to ask "How is one saved". This is my whole point thus far, which you miss. Why should I contend with your question that skips an entire step.

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We can definitively say with historical and scriptural proof that those are heretical Christian churches. Does that mean your going to hell? No lol. But they have nothing to do with liturgies, saints, sacraments, Christian traditions etc. If you can't differentiate between Christs actual body and business bible belt church then thats between you and God in the end. The EO will never judge a person's salvation but telling a Christian they are wrong isn't judging their salvation like you tired to argue here. If there isn't an objectively right version of Christianity then your just a pluralist/reductionist. EO Have an actual Church with historical ties to the 1st century that we can send people to, to experience the fullness of Christianity and its practices. Not suit and tie piety church that resembles corporate America more than form of historical Christianity.

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Yes it is a gotcha question because it's a reductionist question. You wouldn't even know what being saved is without the church which had a patristic tradition of preserving scripture and historical liturgies.

Do protestants believe the whole body is in communion with Christ or just the mind?

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Does this answer your failed "Gotcha" question. "I have been saved, I am being saved, and I will be saved." Its not just a purely one time mental belief. Orthodoxy has normative authority alongside acknowledging the possibility of extra normative means for being saved. So,either make an actual argument against orthodoxy view of salvation or don't expect anyone to take you seriously.

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@SMPT799053 @JIMonX89 @PageauJonathan Will Gavin and his Dad close down their heretical church? If not his response does not matter.

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@JakenKy1 @PageauJonathan The discussions are low tier from their Opponents. Protestants can't even honesty debate the EO position without misrepresenting it constantly which seems intentional at this point. It grows old and gets boring. Who wants to deal with that constantly?

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@JakenKy1 @CasperGaust @PageauJonathan I'll tell you how you don't get saved and it's not by thinking (Once saved always saved) and assuming your own judgement lol.

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@stthomasofwilm @PageauJonathan There's always low tier comments like this. You gotta be blind to actually think this if your not rage baiting.

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@JayDyer Thank you man for all you're work over the last 10 years. A worthy retirement indeed.

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@Trent_Horn @JayDyer You've lost the plot. Anyone paying attention to Christian apologetics sees through you now. But the piety from you is unmatched dude. Your lucky Jay is retiring tbh

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@paleochristcon @DailyBreakfast3 Yay that continues to be the case with them. Pretty telling to those who pay attention.