@_ggtrey@NickStillHere I just did. You’re clinging to the 4-yr run rhetoric despite the evidence I shared that it was longer than that, so we’re not having a honest convo lol. You allow Harden’s accolades to tell you he’s great, & dismiss Russ’s w an asterisk, when they’re nearly identical.
@_ggtrey@NickStillHere You can say that about any role player you seek to invalidate. Fact however is not one chip was won for Kobe without him on the roster. & that doesn’t take away from Kobe. So how many clutch shots would have been enough for your approval lol?
@_ggtrey@NickStillHere What’s the difference? Neither won rings, both lost with several great players as teammates including each other? Hardens only good years was 2017- 2020 right? Constantly choked in playoffs before during & after that. I’m following your reasoning.
@_ggtrey@NickStillHere You got it bro lol idk what to tell anymore. He could be replaced yet neither Shaq or Kobe won in LAL without him. We've gone from diminishing MVPs to diminishing elite role players😂 You’re a cynic atp
@_ggtrey@NickStillHere Finals run & multiple conference finals isn’t sniffing playoffs. An 8th seed or play-in is. You’re letting your disdain for him or his his style of play cloud your judgment & erase factual info lol.
But you can hear it from an actual NBA champion. “Production, stats, impact”.
@_ggtrey@NickStillHere He’s the best rebounding guard of all time & a better defender & a better scorer. Every stat is higher every accolade after their MVPs is higher. lying to yourself now lol. Rose career was cut short w health so quite literally no way it was more consistent off that fact alone.
@_ggtrey@NickStillHere 2015-2021 was his peak, that’s without the finals run. Best years were spent with Andre Roberson as a starter. You might think more highly of him than you know if you expect a ring w that roster.
@_ggtrey@NickStillHere That’s what I mean, the idea of the only achievement worth something in the NBA being a chip is lame, boring way to watch & talk hoops lol. 2 scoring titles, 2 ast titles, every triple double record & 4 seasons avging one, 20 ast games, a MVP lol. No brainer 1st ballot.
@_ggtrey@NickStillHere You don’t have to advocate; or be biased. But it’s human nature to not see the latter. Unconscious bias is a thing, can’t be helped. If I recall D Rose was your fav player back in the day. If he had Russ’ resume & records that’s a hof career. But you don’t like the guy
@_ggtrey@NickStillHere He avg 28-7-7 in HOU. Most efficient szn. 22-11-11 in WAS on a down year & led them to their only playoffs in 10 years. The 4 yrs you’re speaking of may be his PEAK, definitely not his only good years. Thats hating.
@_ggtrey@NickStillHere Your whole word choice language around his accomplishments is literally downplaying what he did lol. It’s not a “cling” to greatness, it’s some of what he did, you just don’t have enough characters to list the rest. You gotta be objective in order to have a real argument here.
@_ggtrey@NickStillHere Bc it’s not consistent when applied to other non-champions, i.e. Charles Barkley. You made an exception for him that validated his case bc he was the franchise player for longer basically.