@FarmGirlCarrie Life long diver here - from puget sound (home of the pacific giant octopus) - and am probably more likely than most people to have been in this predicament.
I’ve never been in that predicament.
@MegaDrivingSch “Her attorneys claim the officer was at fault”
Ethics question for the pond scum out there…yes, I get best possible representation for your client, but what is the ‘line’ and why don’t we get to fucking tar and feather you when you cross it?!
@Viktor03000 It IS a great scene. But I gotta be ‘that guy’, Seth. You couldn’t get the 455 until ‘70. ‘69 Judges had the 400 Ram Air III or the round port 400 Ram Air IV (exceedingly rare).
(Ducks to avoid things thrown at me)
@cartierfamilyZ Might help to know who the Jacobins were to know why this account is so retarded.
These were the lefties in the french revolution led by Robespierre who brought on “the terrors” and then Robespierre himself, after failing their purity tests, was guillotined by them.
@BskiMike22802@GovTimWalz “but somewhere out there is a tree tirelessly producing oxygen for you, and you owe it an apology for how it is being spent.”
I will burn this into my memory (and save in my “notes” folder!) for posterity. I will also assume your tacit permission to reuse as often as necessary.
"Lawless federal agents took another life." Fascinating framing from a governor whose own state has not, to my knowledge, sent out a single PSA telling residents the following basic fact: driving a car at a human being is deadly force, Governor. Not an inconvenience. Not a misunderstanding. Deadly force. And when the person standing in front of that car is legally armed, they are permitted — and often will choose — to stop you from killing them. That is not a partisan opinion, that is Physics 101 combined with about two centuries of settled self-defense law, two subjects apparently not covered in the curriculum where you used to teach.
Since you and your fellow governors seem allergic to saying this plainly, allow me, in eight languages, so nobody in your press office has an excuse:
Spanish: Arrollar a personas con un coche puede matar a alguien y puede considerarse fuerza letal. Si esa persona tiene un arma, debería y a menudo lo hará para evitar que los mates.
Chinese: 用汽车碾压人可能会杀死某人,并可能被视为致命武力。如果那个人有枪,他们应该而且经常会阻止你杀死他们。
Tagalog: Ang pagsagasaan ng mga tao gamit ang kotse ay maaaring pumatay ng isang tao at maaaring ituring na puwersang nakamamatay. Kung ang taong iyon ay may baril, dapat at madalas na pipigilan ka niya na patayin sila.
Vietnamese: Lái xe cán qua người có thể giết chết ai đó và có thể được coi là vũ lực chí mạng. Nếu người đó có súng, họ nên và thường sẽ ngăn bạn giết họ.
Arabic: الاصطدام بالأشخاص باستخدام السيارة يمكن أن يقتل شخصًا ويمكن اعتباره قوة مميتة. إذا كان ذلك الشخص يحمل مسدسًا، فإنه يجب وغالبًا ما سيمنعك من قتله.
French: Renverser des gens avec une voiture peut tuer quelqu'un et peut être considéré comme une force mortelle. Si cette personne a une arme à feu, elle devrait et souvent le fera pour vous empêcher de les tuer.
Korean: 차로 사람을 치는 것은 누군가를 죽일 수 있으며 치명적인 무력으로 간주될 수 있습니다. 그 사람이 총을 가지고 있다면, 그들은 당신이 그들을 죽이는 것을 막아야 하고 종종 그렇게 할 것입니다.
Portuguese: Atropelar pessoas com um carro pode matar alguém e pode ser considerado força letal. Se essa pessoa tiver uma arma, ela deve e muitas vezes vai impedir que você as mate.
Now, on the actual facts you conveniently skipped: Lucas Scott, 18, an eyewitness, told the Portland Press Herald he watched the driver "put the car into drive and was trying to hit the ICE officer" before the agent fired. That is not my framing, Governor, that is a bystander's account in your regional paper. Maybe read past the headline next time before you climb on the ledge of moral outrage.
For the legal literacy portion of today's lesson: DeShaney v. Winnebago County (1989) and Town of Castle Rock v. Gonzales (2005) already settled that the government owes no individual an affirmative duty to shield them from harm they deliberately drove themselves into. You can be as horrified as you want, it does not rewrite tort law.
I would explain the difference between "lawless" and "lawful self-defense" further, but somewhere out there is a tree tirelessly producing oxygen for you, and you owe it an apology for how it is being spent. And before you lecture the rest of us on "accountability," maybe start by holding a press conference that does not require translation apps to contain a basic truth: don't ram federal agents with your car, and they will not need to shoot you.
But what do I know? I am only a medically retired combat medic who has actually treated what a moving vehicle does to a human body, unlike a governor whose closest experience with deadly force is a strongly worded tweet.
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