@GR1FF1NONE@dfyzator_15@DougFordPatriot I don't even get the point trying to be made here, you seem to believe that we are going to run out of resources but you also seem to think population control is a negative. So what is your position? That we are going to run out of resources and die and nothing can be done?
@GR1FF1NONE@dfyzator_15@DougFordPatriot Awesome, if it is worth it to the degree that we need to burn through our entire platinum supply on Earth then that new demand will generate more interest into harnessing the resources of our solar system and we will thrive with thousands of tonnes of rare minerals.
@GR1FF1NONE@dfyzator_15@DougFordPatriot This is a meaningless assertion that might as well be spiritual in nature unless you provide actual numbers and predictions based on them about resource consumption.
@GR1FF1NONE@dfyzator_15@DougFordPatriot And no you don't even need outside population control, human populations will level off because that is what industrial societies do. It's not like it will keep expanding indefinitely, what is this childish understanding of the world?
@GR1FF1NONE@dfyzator_15@DougFordPatriot What is "innovation" what does that mean? Are you making up technology that requires so much extra platinum it would dry out immediately, what is this based on? You seem to also believe that in 200 years there will be no other source if it is required at such a scale.
@GR1FF1NONE@dfyzator_15@DougFordPatriot is really besides the point, we already produce enough to overcome scarcity of necessities. This is not a utopian concept, we already have solved this problem and have more than enough capability to expand it, they are just distributed improperly.
@GR1FF1NONE@dfyzator_15@DougFordPatriot How much platinum do you think you actually need to sustain a population? At the current rate we have hundreds of years of platinum left, and platinum can be recycled with varying degrees of success, it is 60-95% recovery depending in method used. But that
@DougFordPatriot@dfyzator_15@GR1FF1NONE Of course, how do you create socialism if you lack the material ability to provide for society? You can't eliminate scarcity with vibes and wishes.
@GR1FF1NONE@dfyzator_15 Why would he be? The Soviet Union already advanced his country into the capitalist mode of production, which took them out of a feudal backwater into an modern industrial nation, the logical thing to do is to continue to advance the mode of production, not advocate stagnation.
@franklinarepa@Vito_1917@raymackmelon@TheMemeWalker@herecy21 You can't tell me that a "native French" person is someone tied by "common history" but then also tell me people from the same region who were exposed to the same "common history" are native Spaniards. That's not how history works, it didn't stop in one half of the region.
@franklinarepa@Vito_1917@raymackmelon@TheMemeWalker@herecy21 You just assured me that these people are so culturally distinct that they have to form two different communities based on borders, but now you're telling me the border actually doesn't really tell you about "common history" and culture?