I am amending this challenge. I am going to read 64 books by the end of 2027. I will post a picture of each book as I finish it. Starting the challenge tomorrow. Let’s do this.
If anyone wants to see what I think is a good philosophical discussion between Mormons and Catholics, this conversation I had with @WriterJohnBuck on @waldenpod was a lot of fun.
https://t.co/ca4hEPjmdv
Jesuits writing articles titled “Why I hate the old Latin Mass” will create an enormous boost of interest and support for the Traditional Latin Mass among young people.
Most young Catholics distrust Jesuits so this is simply an endorsement of TLM as cool.
This is a GOOD sign.
That’s because these are all wrong basically. Oral sex in marriage is not sinful nor is mutual masturbation in marriage; you cannot climax from these things because that’s going against the natural order of things, which is that sex is for procreation primarily not recreation.
Celibacy is better than marriage in some cases, that does not mean marriage and sex are generally bad. They are good things and the Catholic Church encourages and blesses them. Sex is not the end all and be all of life.
There is nothing confusing about Catholic views on sexuality, you just aren’t thinking hard enough.
Catholics:
-Oral Sex in Marriage… sinful
-Mutual masturbation within a marriage that does not end in penetration orgasm… sinful
- Having sex when you are infertile…. Totally fine.
- Gay sex… sinful.
- Wearing a condom… sinful
- taking the pill… sinful
- IFV…. Sinful
- Having sex when she has no chance of getting pregnant… totally fine.
- Mary was a perpetual virgin and Joseph never has sexual relations with his wife
- Celibacy is seen as a higher calling
- No divorce allowed
The more I learn about Catholic views on sex the more confused I get.
@jacksonfrandsen I’m not changing it. If you can actualize any possible state of affairs, you can actualize your will as long as it’s not contradictory. Again, that’s a deduction.
No it doesn’t. Omnipotence means you can’t do anything logically possible. That’s the definition. If you had two beings who could do anything, then the other could (even if it never did so) stop the other being from carrying out its will which would mean neither being was omnipotent. It’s logically possible to carry out your will. If someone or something can stop you from doing that then you’re not omnipresent. Again, that’s not begging the question that’s logical deduction.
Being omnipotent doesn’t mean that you are necessarily good; an omnipotent being could be completely evil.
Another problem is there no reason to believe there is more than one omnipotent being. The classical arguments of Gods existence that would give you omnipotence, such as the first three ways, would only give you one such being. So…you’d need to demonstrate why there was more than one.
Also, the point originally made was not about the coherence of the view. It was that God has properties that humans don’t have and cannot have, so even if I granted more omnipotent beings than one there would still be a wide chasm being these beings and humans which have none of these attributes.
No, I’m saying that’s logically inconsistent. Omnipotence means you can do anything that’s logically possible. It’s logically possible to eliminate everything other than oneself, if you have two omnipotent beings that impossible because the other could thwart the other. So, if there are any omnipotent beings, there could only be one. Not many.
It’s logically impossible to eliminate a necessary being because that be definition means you can’t be annihilated. That’s why I said it’s logically possible for an omnipotent being to eliminate anything other than itself. If there is another force that can’t be destroyed it shows that being isn’t omnipotent.
You can just say, as Ostler basically does, that there just are no omnipotent beings. But you can’t have more than one. Period. End of story. It’s a logical deduction.
If God is a being worthy of worship, is all-powerful, is all-knowing, and is all-good, then he is certainly nothing like human beings because human beings have none of those attributes.
Creedal Christianity became so obsessed with making God utterly unlike us that it eventually had to explain away nearly every biblical description of our relationship to Him.
Made in His image.
His offspring.
His children.
His heirs.
Partakers of the divine nature.
Destined to become like Him.
Then someone says, “God and man can’t possibly be the same kind of being.”
At some point you have to wonder whether the Bible is allowed a seat at the theological table.
@ThoughtfulSaint