@gayleviv@RealBrittHughes@ib2_real This is apples and oranges. Any citizen’s death is a tragedy, but only one of those were killed by the government’s paramilitary occupation force. ICE is there to punish and escalate against political enemies. Immigration is the excuse. That’s the difference and the problem.
@gayleviv@RealBrittHughes@ib2_real If ICE continues to assault citizens, they should expect consequences at some point as well. American citizens rightfully view ICE as a dangerous and potentially lethal threat and are wisely arming up. At this point, citizens should be armed when interacting with ICE.
@BluePikashoe@StanFalk@dpakman That’s her constitutional right, whether you or I like it or not. If she crosses the line, real police should handle it. It was not and was never the right of ICE to create a kill box to murder a citizen. These abuses are why the country is arming itself.
@Three_Double_U@Mafubaja@PamphletsY And yet, I would still defend your constitutional rights even knowing that you’re a dishonest scumbag. I would be opposed to the same situation if the tables were turned. That’s how a real constitutional democracy works.
@Three_Double_U@Mafubaja@PamphletsY You didn’t have the vast majority of the country. You had 1/3 of the country that voted, augmented by those of us independents that you dishonorable fucks lied to when you said you’d be decent. You don’t have independents anymore and even MAGA is breaking ranks. No mandate.
@Three_Double_U@Mafubaja@PamphletsY As a side note, I would have the same stance for you or any other citizen, even one I hated. I had the same stance against the MAGA persecution. That’s called a principled stance. I used to defend MAGA as unfairly judged. I was wrong.
@Three_Double_U@Mafubaja@PamphletsY I’m not even a Liberal or against immigration you midwit. I’m an independent and a veteran who served a decade and two tours for this country. I swore to uphold the constitution. The actions of ICE against Americans are brutal and unconstitutional.
@LBoobart@CattardSlim Actually yes. Find the video with the Black Panthers armed and talking to the police. The police are on their best behavior with a level playing field. Power does what it will unchecked.
@thresholdvenom@brucefenton How about not busting up and abducting American citizens for a start? Maybe stick to their actual immigration objective? That’s assuming immigration is their actual objective and not a Trojan horse for a new Gestapo. This is political targeted violence.
@Three_Double_U@Mafubaja@PamphletsY Yes they are. You can’t gaslight me when I’ve seen so much brutality. Not just against immigrants and protesters, but against ordinary American citizens going about their business. It’s become glaringly obvious that ICE are sadists, criminals, and thugs given undue power.
@DrakeAMartinez @DanBilzerian There was partisan persecution under Biden. I’m aware because as an independent my MAGA buddies told me they would never do that. They’d do better, be better. Now they have an occupying paramilitary force brutalizing American citizens. Is it patriotic to harm citizens?
@Three_Double_U@Mafubaja@PamphletsY That’s exactly what’s happening. They’re not just going after immigrants or protesters, but ordinary Americans even after proving citizenship. Agreed that Americans should be armed whenever ICE is near to level the playing field.
@Three_Double_U@PamphletsY The voted for the latest round of shit options to be clear, with 1/3 to 1/2 of votes coming from the pendulum swing of desperation as people flee whoever the last worst admin was. Much of that support is gone within MAGA and from independents like myself.
Trump has no mandate.
@StanFalk@dpakman That’s not the question. It’s a question of proportionality. The behavior by ICE has been so disproportionately brutal compared to the crimes that everyone has taken notice. They’re correctly viewed as a threat to anyone they’re near, immigrant or American alike.
@TomJones221223@DarkMatter2525@ScooterCasterNY@noturtlesoup17 ICE lost any legitimacy when it started attacking, abducting, and killing American citizens. Even those who comply and prove they’re citizens. Their brutality has people correctly identifying them as a threat to Americans. That they’re trained by Israel removes all doubt.
@StatesmanOrder @LucasSa56947288 That’s been disproven by multiple videos since. This is not an isolated incident but a pattern. ICE are assaulting and abducting Americans, including non-protestors, even after showing that they’re citizens. Compliance does not ensure your safety.