@OkalaNQT Five accounts each grinding the same +$204 is the whole multi-account game β the edge isn't bigger, it's replicated. The hard part is keeping them in sync when one has a red day. That's where most stacks quietly bleed.
@jacktradesnq 'Topone carries the whole PnL' is the realest line in the thread. The math worth finishing: it's not just carrying the PnL, it's carrying the cost of 3 other funded + 3 evals. The real flex is clearing the whole stack, not one green account.
@pip_tee_capital The lesson everyone pays to learn the hard way β stacking another $1,800 next week beats squeezing one account dry. Across multiple $25k Lucids, do you pull each as it qualifies or batch them? Lucid's daily processing makes the cadence matter more than people think.
@NickDoesFutures Rare to see someone actually run the numbers. The line missing: $5,500 is the cost of the 53 that lived, not your cost basis. The dead evals + resets to get 53 funded are the hidden number β real cost per account is well above $104. That's the math nobody runs.
@Z_Nasdaq Daily payouts stacking across TPT and Lucid at once is the dream setup. Different daily rules on each though β how are you tracking the net across both, or just letting each firm's dashboard ride? Clean day regardless.
@FarmforAnswers @Alpha_Futures_@bulenoxofficial@E8Futures@TradeDayFunding@Tradeify@fnfutures@purdia Respect for actually starting β daily is the hard part. The spreadsheet holds until you're netting fees + resets + payouts across 8 firms by hand. That's the exact gap I built PropTato for. Want me to show you? Might save you the daily entry.
@tradetanto@TradingLucid Clean sim. The layer it doesn't model: pass rate β paid rate. Passing the 25k eval at 55% is one gate β but the funded trailing keeps ratcheting and the consistency rule means that same 55% can pass and still never hit a clean payout. The eval's the easy part.
@T3metrics@Topstep Multiple XFAs eligible at once is the good kind of problem. How are you sequencing the payouts β pulling them together or staggering? Topstep's per-account rules make stacking withdrawals trickier than people expect. Clean run though.
@MeetMattL The 1% answer feels right but it's 10% of what matters β $1k against your $10k drawdown. The drawdown is your real account. ~10 losers and you're done. On a trailing DD worse, the floor follows you up. That's how 'safe' 1%-of-account sizing blows accounts.
@FarmforAnswers @fnfutures@Alpha_Futures_@E8Futures@Tradeify That number hides across 8 firms β each dashboard looks fine alone, so "spending too much" never gets a figure. What lands: fees + resets across all firms minus payouts, netted. Literally why I built PropTato. Ping me in June when you start, no pitch.
Apex math nobody runs:
My billing page: 5 evals β 3 dead, 1 funded, 1 running $124.50 evals + $99 activation = $223.50 spent.
When that 1 funded account goes green, you feel like you're winning. But your cost basis is all 5 evals β not the 1 that worked.
Count the whole stack.
@shrederickson@edgeful Solid take on rolling windows. The propfirm angle nobody adds:a 6-week flat period in a backtest is survivable, but 6 flat weeks with small drawdowns can breach a trailing-dd funded account before the strategy "comes alive."Backtest edge and survivable edge aren't the same number
@ZenTrader_fx@TradingLucid Ah got it β so the $336 already includes the failed one, that's the honest version most people skip. 971% holds then. The only thing that'd still move it is reset fees on the funded side if you ever reset instead of rebuying. 3/4 first-attempt pass rate is genuinely elite though.
@TindallOG The math behind this is wild once you run it. At 42.86% winrate: 1:1R = -0.14R per trade (quietly bleeding). 1:2R = +0.29R. 1:3R = +0.71R. Going 1:1 β 1:2 didn't "improve" your edge β it flipped you from negative to positive. Winrate barely matters once R:R does the lifting.
@trades_by_sam "Last week was rough. Lost a Tradeify account and honestly felt frustrated with myself. This week though we got back on the horse. Started a new Apex account and almost passed it within the week, but made a couple stupid management mistakesβ¦"
@Deswaltrades@Topstep 65% winrate carrying a negative avg win/loss ratio is legit β high hit rate is an edge most underrate. One watch-out on funded: when the losing streak hits (and it does), bigger-than-avg losses eat trailing dd fast. Real edge, just fragile to variance.
@dtr_trading "Cheapest account = most expensive habit" is brutally accurate. The hidden math: 4 resets at $29 is $116, but the real cost is 4 first-loss spirals never reviewed. The cheap price makes people skip the post-mortem they'd do on a $150 account. Cheap removes the pain that fixes you