Ex Royal Marine from long ago - blues musician and writer.
40 years in strategic marketing
25 years university lecturing (advertising)
Ex-Cowboy (Texas) Ex HGV
As a Christian, I have been trying to understand what I see happening to my country over the last few years.
With the return of Jerusalem to the Jews, we reach the end of what Jesus called, "The Time of the Gentiles".
Luke 21, 24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
At the end of such an era comes judgement. Everything is tested by fire and only what is true survives. What doesn't, never was.
The English have a decent shout to be the oldest contiguous nation on the planet. Even the Anglo-Saxons made up only 25% of the new population. We are the same as we always were. From the book "The Seven Daughters of Eve" by Bryan Stokes, I came to the conclusion that the English were almost certainly the remains of that nation that Scripture calls "The Kittim", which makes a lot more sense of the later end-time prophecies!
For anyone who wonders if Scripture supports this idea, I'd point them towards the prophecies against the nations made by Balaam, particularly towards Asher (the ruins of Asher are about six miles from the town of T'krit).
From 300AD until very recently, the English as a whole were Christians. Christianity formed the entire foundation of their society.
They instituted the Parliamentary Democracy, the independent judiciary, the apolitical Civil Service and the absolute freedom of speech and thought which ensure freedom for all. These ideas they spread though the whole world and wherever they have been adopted (or survived independence), those nations are the freest on the planet.
For about 200 years, England (and later Britain) was the centre of the propagation of the Gospel throughout the world. Oh, and they ended slavery over a quarter of the globe.
For those who believe the English are irredeemably racist, at the height of the Empire, a memo was circulated throughout the Colonial Service which stated: "In the Colonial Service the one unforgivable sin is a sense of racial superiority." Whereas Ex-pats may have been racist, the Colonial Service itself was the first institutionally anti-racist organisation in the world!
So where are they now, the English (and British)? Under judgement.
If that judgement continues, in less than 100 years, the English as a race will have been all but eradicated.
Do they deserve that? Well, yes, everyone does!
Will that happen?
I was on the point of thinking so, until I found a Scripture. This may be the most important Scripture I have ever found and for the moment I cannot move past it. It is in the Book of the Prophet Micah, in the last chapter and it states:
Micah 7, 1-9
"Oh woe is me, I am as when they have already gathered the summer fruits and all the grapes are harvested. There is nothing to eat, no first fruit that my soul craves.
"The faithful have been swept from the land - not one upright person remains. Everyone lies in wait for one another, each hunts his fellow with a net.
"They give both hands to do evil; to do it well. The prince demands his price, the judge has his agenda, the great and the good speak only the evil desire of their souls and so they twist the course of justice between them.
"The best of them is like a briar, the most upright like a hedge of thorns. The day of which the watchmen warned is come; the day God settles accounts. Now is the time of confusion.
"Do not trust your neighbour, have no confidence in a friend, even from the woman in your arms, guard your lips.
"For the son dishonours his father, a daughter rises against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law - a man's enemies are those of his own household.
"But as for me, I watch in hope for the LORD; I wait for my saviour.
"Do not gloat over me my enemies, for though I have fallen, I shall rise. Though I sit in darkness, the LORD will be my light again.
"I will bear the LORD's wrath and anger for I have indeed sinned against him. But when that is done he will turn again and plead my cause, and give me justice. He will bring me back to the light and I will see his vindication."
You will not find these exact words in any single translation, since I compared 9 translations, one of them French, and went back to the Hebrew on almost every word. But this is the sense as best I can extract it. If any Ancient Hebrew experts ever see this, then they can correct any bit of it I have wrong.
Around the turn of the millennium, I was invited to a conference of the prophetic wing of the Christian Church in Britain. Of the 40 or so people there, most were proposing that we "declare Ichabod". I got very angry and predicted Brexit. I was the only one to do so.
I also predicted that we would come through judgement and survive. Since then I have had my doubts, but since the one came true, I must believe the other. This Scripture gives me the hope that I was right on both. THIS is where we are.
BTW, I was never invited back!๐
If what he was talking about was "after a rapture", would he not have mentioned the rapture first?๐
On the contrary, he is telling disciples - his closest followers - what is going to happen to them and to their brothers and sisters! There is no indication that they will miss it - quite the reverse: they are to be prepared.
The 144,000 is a figurative number, being a "completed completion".
Grok also has all the Hebrew as well and is wonderful for Bible studies.
The pre-trib reading of apocalyptic Scripture is VERY recent, and almost exclusively American. It never struck me as being even a remote possibility!
Imagine: the richest, healthiest, most comfortable and longest-lived generation in the history of the planet gets to slope off to Heaven while all their brothers and sisters since the days of Christ were tortured, crucified or burned! However would we look them in the eye??
But what this doctrine does is to prevent this generation from mentally and spiritually preparing for the most difficult times in our history. No wonder these prophesies propose that so many of the Elect fall by the wayside!
We're so close to the end that I am almost certain the Man of Blood is already alive.
@TWMCLtd Yes it did, although at the point that I was supposed to lower the flag to the ground, right in front of me stood the Mayoress, and if I had lowered it, it would have struck her on the head!๐
@HatT0r@postmarkis@CancerousWon@EternalFaithEO@grok No, that's the "transformed in an instant" bit. When the rapture finally arrives (as Christ comes back to Earth) the remaining few of the Elect still alive are transformed in the air. That bit he has right.
@postmarkis@CancerousWon@EternalFaithEO@HatT0r@grok It's Mark 13. Start at verse 1 and arrive at verse 20. And then start mentally and spiritually preparing to go through the fire. Notice all the way through that there is not one single moment when Jesus suggests they will slope off to Heaven and avoid the fire.
It is a curious thing to think of "Remembrance" (that is: the dead of wars past) during an ongoing war (where the dead occur every day). Nevertheless, that is where we are, those of us who support Ukraine.
The details of today's events are here:
This is the start of the daily Ukraine thread for Day 1722 of Russia's full invasion.
It's the Day of Remembrance and also in Ukraine the anniversary of the liberation of Kherson, the only regional capital captured by Russia since Feb 2022, which they promptly lost.
Let's go..
@HatT0r@postmarkis@CancerousWon@EternalFaithEO@grok Well, quite. A huge number of Christians think they will waft away to Heaven instead of suffering for the name of Christ, and will thus not be prepared.
@postmarkis@CancerousWon@EternalFaithEO@HatT0r@grok So the dead in Christ rise first! Do you think that's going to happen before the End? The End being when Christ returns to rule for a thousand years.
Furthermore, the Tribulation was shortened "for the sake of the Elect", which is absurd if the Elect had already been taken!
@postmarkis@CancerousWon@EternalFaithEO@HatT0r@grok There's no way we're raptured before the return of Christ. The verb is the same as used for the wise virgins - they go out to meet the bridegroom TO RETURN IMMEDIATELY WITH HIM. We meet him in the air as he is returning. And the dead in Christ rise first!
After Rep. Thomas Massie introduced articles of impeachment against Pete Hegseth, Hegseth was caught coming back from a 3-1/2 hour lunch, appearing to be slightly physically impaired.
@StevenScrase If the next war is a civil one, they'll learn to fight or die where they stand. And that's the point - after eighty years of "The End of History", they no longer connect the services with national survival. Personal survival will be easier to understand!๐
Regardless of personal opinions about Russell Brand, on the exact same day he received a prison sentence of ten years and six months, an Afghan national appeared in court for three counts of rape and penetration of a child under 13, but received a two-year suspended sentence.
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