@UmmmmNo8 Can you explain the systems terms that Im using. Genuinely here to learn.
I honestly am using my own logic, was not taught anything that I spoke to you about.
😭 That is an aspect of the story, but in 2025 there is way too much opportunity for change.
This happened with my parents generation, both came from the hood, my Daddy from the worst one in Louisville. But instead of staying in the system they both broke out and only two of their 4 kids of lived in the projects and none of us were ever feed by WIC. We lived a middle class lifestyle and has “strict” parenting that allowed us the innocence to be kids and the knowledge to be free thinkers.
Yes, there are a lot of broken women still, but there are enough who are changing course for us to build with each other. Im just ready to talk about solutions not problems. 🙏
😭 That is an aspect of the story, but in 2025 there is way too much opportunity for change.
This happened with my parents generation, both came from the hood, my Daddy from the worst one in Louisville. But instead of staying in the system they both broke out and only two of their 4 kids of lived in the projects and none of us were ever feed by WIC. We lived a middle class lifestyle and has “strict” parenting that allowed us the innocence to be kids and the knowledge to be free thinkers.
Yes, there are a lot of broken women still, but there are enough who are changing course for us to build with each other. Im just ready to talk about solutions not problems. 🙏
🫰🏾🫰🏾 Love this analogy. But we must also notice that the Black King no longer wants his Black queen, he has deemed her unworthy and turned from her as well.
But I was taught that the man is to love his queen and to sanctify her, cleaning her by washing with water through the Word ( and his own gentle words). To love her as his own body because he loves himself….
The empire does not crumble from one persons choice alone, it’s the co-created dynamic of distrust, dismissal, and disillusionment.
I hear you and get the logic you’re working from.
But Im also stuck here: You say I’ve been trained to resist Black men but isn’t framing any disagreement as “proof” of programming its own form of containment? Giving no value to my humanity, freedom of thought, or even growth in understanding…
You say I’m a tool of the system. But what about Black men? You think the system only targeted us?
It told y’all disengagement is power and called that leadership. But that makes it so there is no black legacy, which is the result the system wanted in the first place! RIGHT?
And most importantly, you talk about alignment, but never define it. What does alignment even look like? Is it partnership? Is it control? Is it women following silently? OR Is it both of us healing and that creating natural divine alignment?
I’m aligned to God first, then to healing, then to honorable leadership & then to legacy.
But who aligns to control disguised as protection or leadership without love? —The desperate and unworthy and no man is attracted to a woman like that. You want women who know their worth and exude value because they will become the mother of your children and your legacy.
So respectfully, it’s not just “which way, Black woman”…
It’s which way black people? Because if we aren’t both walking toward healing, we’re just talking in circles and welcoming our demise.
This isn't about men's feelings, we have the data, decades worth, that's what is fueling the men, not just feelings.
You are not our mirrors, you are our sheathes, you don't realize this, and the only people who can point out where your chains are, you've been trained not to listen to by default. (like you aren't right now)
One of the things Black women have been trained to do to help the system maintain control over Black men is to make sure we remain engaged with you WHILE denying us the very things we wish to build.
"No brothers come lead us, we need you."
Then we come back and try to lead and you make sure to move the goal posts eternally so that you never have to see us as legitimate leaders.
"Well a real man would do xyz...", "Well the white man does xyz for his woman...", the list is unsatisfiable by design.
Again this is not personal this is structural, Black women aren't inherently evil, you are simply the systems containment tool.
The fear from the women is that you see us increasingly disengaging, you were not trained to know how to counter that. Plus it doesn't benefit you personally, and it feels bad, and you've been conditioned in a way so that it's nigh impossible for you to understand the real reasons why. So you frame it as cowardice, moral abdication, betrayal, etc.
Listen, when we realized what you were re-engineered to do, and who actually owns you. We realized that even entertaining y'all on those grounds without you being aligned with us, was doomed to failure.
So no, there will be no leadership, not without the Black woman's alignment first. That is the only way "WE" together "breakout" of the system.
So which way Black woman?
Men tend to go towards feminine that is receptive of their comfort…
I wish it was this black and white but it isn’t at all.
Resentment and distrust creates walls that men are not willing to climb & women are not willing to break down. Who first?! 🤷🏾♀️
@ThomasBland99 Jealousy & lack of feminine guidance passed down generations.
Instead of raising daughters, many only “take care” of them, a very different energy & impact.
They see them as burdens on their own femininity… made worse when there’s no father in the home.
@EdLatimore 🥺Once you have children divorce should be unspeakable, as long as there is not abuse or infidelity, your ego needs to be dropped and trauma healed for their sake.
@ThomasBland99 So very true!!! 😭
So honestly, the first issue has to be creating a better home life for our youth.
But that starts with the individuals that create the family and that starts with black marriage!…😅
The main issue facing black men is lack of honorable leadership within themselves & in their community.
A good leader will always have followers who respect & revere them.
Black women are your mirrors, not your enemies & sometimes it hurts to see your reflection.
When I hear someone ask a married couple how they've made their marriage work for so long and one of the responses is, "She's always right." My ears immediately stop working.
I hear your frustration and I know a lot of y’all feel exactly that! But here’s the thing: when you frame the woman as the ENEMY, the real battle is lost before it can even begin.
Systems did target Black women && MEN there is obviously no debate there! Generationally, intentionally, systematically. But true leadership adapts, strategizes, and reclaims what’s been manipulated….It doesn’t retreat into hopelessness.
Black women aren’t property to win or lose. We’re people: mirrors, but also partners, allies, sometimes even opponents and still COMPLETELY CAPABLE of choosing better.
The same system that fractured our connection, fears what happens when Black men and women actually heal the disconnect!
So, do we lean into the systematic programming or do we out-strategize it, @UmmmmNo8 ?
A leader who believes his people are irredeemable has already abdicated HIS role, but the seat still needs to be filled!
The system didn’t just poison Black women, it poisoned some Black men into believing they can’t lead unless they control everything.
I truly believe healing this disconnect and creating a LOVING and HONORABLE Patriarchy based on Godly values is how we build a Black Legacy they can’t fracture again.
But it starts with our leaders…👀
The unfortunate truth is that collectively the Black woman is not the Black man's woman, she belongs to the system.
She is not our mirror, she is our sheath purposefully re-designed to blunt our sword, by a dominant society psychologically addicted to but terrified of the power of the Black man.
Even the greatest leader can not lead a people indoctrinated in a culture to oppose his leadership reflexively. But that is her purpose to waste our time and stifle our energy to build anything that would threaten the dominant society, and in that she is completely adept.
However she is blind to her design, which makes it even more potent, because she will never be able to understand how she is herself, and the only people who can explain what happened to her are the same group of men the system trained her to not respect the word of.
That is the true problem facing the Black American man. We want to build power through family legacy, but Black American women have been intentionally poisoned against exactly that.
What man wants to build when he knows there is no future?