The irony here is almost too perfect. You’re a man lecturing a woman about what it means to “respect actual women,” explaining what women should believe about women, blaming women for society’s problems, dismissing a psychiatric illness as “radical feminist propaganda,” and then ordering me to respond to you in the manner you’ve decided is acceptable.
You didn’t disprove my assessment of you. You illustrated it.
And no, recognizing postpartum psychosis isn’t believing women “lack emotional control.” Psychosis is not an emotion, and acknowledging that a severe psychiatric disorder can profoundly impair someone’s perception of reality isn’t feminism—it’s medicine.
I don’t owe you a debate simply because you demand one. Your contempt for women is already abundantly clear, and I have no interest in donating any more of my time to it. Enjoy the last word. You seem like you need it.
@DavidEs35405055@feistymajority This has absolutely nothing to do with the LC case. You don’t know anything about me or my political views. It’s obvious you’re a pig and don’t respect women.
Also it’s not illegal to force people to take their medications. I see people every day and administer court ordered antipsychotics. Just today I was accused of assault and called a career criminal and threatened with the police and jail time for administering a court ordered injection. Guess what- no cops, no jail.
You don’t know damn well that I wouldn’t defend a man for the same thing. You don’t know a thing about me. I have a patient who killed his father because he thought his brain was taken over by the FBI. I defend his right to live in the community and receive treatment because I believe he was psychotic when he did that.
I testified in defense of a patient who violently attacked a fellow nurse in front of me while working in an inpatient psych unit. She ALSO testified in his defense. (well, she was called by the prosecution but she was firm in her belief that he shouldn’t be held criminally responsible because he was delusional when he did it).
I have a patient who threatened to break my neck and murder me if I tried to give him his court ordered antipsychotic injection. I fought for him to remain at home and trial oral meds and because of that he has been stable at home for almost 3 years now. I worked with him and discovered he is terrified of needles which is why he became assaultive every month when his injection became due.
I didn’t respond to your claim that this murder was premeditated because I don’t believe that it was. If she was lying she would have exaggerated her symptoms, not minimized them. I believe she was being as honest as she was capable of being.
Lindsay Clancy was diagnosed with Bipolar disorder and is still being treated for bipolar. Nearly every expert that testified agreed with that diagnosis. That is a diagnosis that carries the HIGHEST risk of developing postpartum psychosis. So check your facts.
Who is the “medical examiner” overseeing the whole case? Why would a medical examiner come to any conclusions regarding the state of mind of LC when she killed her children? Do you know what a medical examiner is?
I do agree that she didn’t take her meds for very long and frequently wanted to change them. I view that as a symptom of her illness and it was up to her providers to recognize that. She is mentally ill. 90% of my patients wouldn’t take their meds as prescribed if they weren’t administered by a nurse.
You don’t know a thing about mental illness and the humane way to treat people who suffer from mental illness. I’ve dedicated my life to working with people who are mentally ill. People like you are the reason people are afraid to be honest about their symptoms and receive the treatment they need.
@Agus1Sunnely@feistymajority 100% this. Awareness leads to better early diagnosis and detection. Ignoring that PPP is a real thing leads to more horrific but preventable deaths.
The article I posted is actually related to the topic. I’m leaving this comment not for you, you clearly aren’t capable of intelligent debates. But for anyone else who may be interested…
PPP at 8 months is not unheard of, but it is much more uncommon. However she started developing symptoms in September so much closer to the birth of Callan. The symptoms just continued to escalate.
Her hallucinations were not described as inconsistent as any form of psychosis. I also don’t think we can know if her hallucinations would have continued or not as she was unconscious and in a medically induced coma after coding. So we can’t know what would have happened.
She was paranoid about meds and scared of all of them. You’re right- she wasn’t good at following orders related to the meds but this should have been seen as a symptom of her illness.
She wasn’t taking several benzos at once. The doctors kept switching her to different ones. However taking benzos consistently could have worked wonders on her insomnia and anxiety. But she was paranoid about being addicted to benzos. Another symptom that she’s delusional and disconnected from reality.
If a man broke up with me for supporting someone with a mental illness then I would be thankful that he showed his true colors. I don’t support the crime, but I do see where she was failed and how things can change in the future. Ignoring the mental illness aspect of this case means we don’t recognize the symptoms in someone else in the future and more lives are lost.
Huh? She complained of insomnia, confusion, brain fog, feeling disconnected from her body, depersonalization, derealization, thought blocking, feeling numb, etc.
She was a labor and delivery nurse. So like 24 hours max with mom and baby. Currently they do postpartum mental health assessments at the 6 week check up, if at all.
@DavidEs35405055@feistymajority Feel free to do your own research and correct your comment to only include facts and then I’m happy to discuss further.
@audrawrongspeak Not if you have to get home so your husband can start working… not something that should be given before bed or once a day in the AM… lots of reasons. I’d bring my sick kid home and then go get meds or ask her dad to get them
@DoctorTurtleboy Maybe but it would also be easier to think she was lying in that scenario as PPP typically involves delusions about your own children.