for pretty obvious reasons this is the thing that maximally hits my boomer resentment rage button. they lived in a world where you could take this journey and just fucked around coasting off the hospitality of poor people and looking for drugs.
@Nobigdeal12345@Astryx_en Punjab was a British creation after the revolte in 1857.
Punjab didn’t exist before that.
Mahmood Shirani was British colonial employee who was brought to Punjab to impose Urdu in Punjab lmao 😂
Mehr Abdul Haq is even more retarded he said Urdu origin is seraiki.
@Nobigdeal12345@Astryx_en My ancestors migrated from Haryana & Delhi.
Back then Haryana , Delhi & west UP was one province.
Central UP was Awadh.
The persianate Urdu thats famous in Pakistan is actually from Lucknow. It was persianized by nawab of Awadh.
Stop using us for ur agenda
Lol, he used to kiss the feet of Shah Alam Sani, a descendant of same Shah Jahan.
Furthermore, it was Bhai Rane Khan who recaptured Delhi in 1788 and later, alongside Ali Bahadur, took Meerut Fort, compelling Ghulam Qadir to flee. It ws Ali bahadur’s forces that captured Qadir
@Confetti87@FibroFogFig@firaqist@Umer9227 Yea Urdu has more Persian loan words and Persian loan words in Urdu came when a Shia Nawab of Awadh reformed it lmao 😂
You realize the Urdu Pakistanis glaze is actually because of a Shia nawab of Lucknow ??
Also i dont believe in any sort of nationalism.
@Confetti87@FibroFogFig@firaqist@Umer9227 Persian has French & Arabic loan word.
Urdu and Hindi both are descendant of Hindavi.
Urdu naturally evolved and borrowed loan words from Persian.
All subcon language has Persian loan words
@Confetti87@FibroFogFig@firaqist@Umer9227 Hindi and Urdu are same languages both are register of Hindustani lmao 😂
Not all Indian Muslims will speak Urdu obviously because Urdu is only native to Haryana- Delhi & West UP.
@FibroFogFig@Fasihrayeen@firaqist@Umer9227 Allama Iqbal and Faiz were both 1% elite not some ordinary people.
Jinnah, Liaquat , Nehru spoke English at that time so English was their native language ??
Shashi Tharoor speaks better English than white janitor in Bradford that does that mean it aint Englishmans language
@fay_alif Rural Sindh had Punjabis some were settled by British and some migrated from east Punjab.
After ethnic riots in 1980s most fled to Hyderabad and Karachi. Some fled to south Punjab & claimed agri land there.
Most have lost their language by now.
@Fasihrayeen@FibroFogFig@firaqist@Umer9227 Even Arain and Kashmiris living in Delhi spoke Urdu.
Sirsa was majority Punjabi actually but yea everyone associated with govt could speak Urdu there.
@Fasihrayeen@FibroFogFig@firaqist@Umer9227 Yes cuze they are from Haryana bruh ofcourse they did.
Muslims reported Urdu as their native language in every British census because haryanvi is a dialect of Hindi.
@firaqist is also from Haryana.
@FibroFogFig@firaqist@Umer9227 Before partition none of your ancestors could speak Urdu let alone read or write it.
So I dont know why you claim language that All India Muslim League imposed on you merely 80 years ago.
You have your own languages. We only have Urdu.
@FibroFogFig@firaqist@Umer9227 What does reading or writing Urdu has to do with anything ??
A labourer in village of Punjab can’t read or write Punjabi so Punjabi isn’t his language no more ??
Im an urdu speaking muhajir whose ancestors are from Delhi.
My cousins born in USA cant read or write Urdu.
@InsaaniatParast@naguftaa@rindraider Half of these retards cry about how it was imposed on them saaaar 😂
And other half do mental gymnastics to claim it
I am one of like 2 muslims at my Highschool in Mississppi 🇺🇸. I have 0 humiliation of being a muslim here and dont have to "kiss a ring" or act different to practice my relgion.