@MasalaFry69@BorinkenMox@LiveAncestral Lol. I'll bite.
How is it that statins reduce all cause mortality by double digit percents in people with high LDL cholesterol?
It's like one of the most effective drugs ever, and it primarily just lowers cholesterol.
@GokusCharizard@Rado9910@John_Jaundice I didn't ignore any of your points lmao.
Soy is a decent source of iron. As well as beans, lentils, spinach, seeds.
Now tell me what the effects of a "mass soy diet" are🤯
2% of the world is vegan, so I'm sure they'd all love to hear as well.
@BorinkenMox@HHSGov@POTUS@SecKennedy Exactly. These are 400 lives that matter, but there's 10s of billions more who are being put through unnecessary suffering as well
@meatymcsorley@AQuartermain Sounds awesome. Do you have an oat milk you recommend?
I like the trader Joe's soy milk because it's literally just soy and water haha
@AQuartermain@meatymcsorley 100% agree. I drink almost only soy milk. It is just crazy how strong the cow milk propaganda is, we're indoctrinated from such a young age.
@WacheeWeekian@Rado9910@John_Jaundice You should listen to yourself. I haven't used a single insult, but you've used many against me in this entire conversation.
Try to name a single thing I've said that's false.
You are experiencing cognitive dissonance and projecting those negative feelings on me.
@GokusCharizard@Rado9910@John_Jaundice The opposite actually. Because we can use our brains, most people are able to eat a plant based diet, where our ancestors had to eat meat.
It takes about 30 soy calories to produce 1 beef calorie. By eating the plants directly, we can reduce the field harvesting deaths by 30x.
@WacheeWeekian@Rado9910@John_Jaundice Also your Google link literally says even in that circumstance, if the plant based diet is well planned, it can be healthy.
What do you think about this Google link?
https://t.co/E6vLHci1iN
@WacheeWeekian@Rado9910@John_Jaundice Holy crashout. Are you ok? You don't seem ok.
Also it's 30x, not 30%. That's a 2900% increase in just critter death.
100 grams of beef protein emits about 50 kg of greenhouse gases. 100 grams of pea protein emits about 0.4 kg.
That's a 125x ratio. There is no other consumer choice — not your car, flights, nor thermostat — where two adjacent options differ by that kind of magnitude.
@TheBrokenMan123@trustlessexp@FriendOfElon@Rado9910 The animals are a source of B12 because their feed is supplemented with B12. How is it any different than us taking B12 directly?
Also you're referencing DHA omega 3s. Fish get DHA from algae/seaweed. We can also get it directly from algae/seaweed
@WacheeWeekian@Rado9910@John_Jaundice Again 30x less harm when eating plant directly. And no harm to complex beings like pigs and cows.
I grew up in a very rural area, and I went to a top FFA school in the nation. I went to the rodeo every year growing up.
But the facts are facts. I wish what I'm saying isn't true
@LewisT83756025@bikeswithbells@Rado9910 [2/2] I agree there is a ton of messed up stuff happening in the world.
In the case of animal suffering, that is a huge blight that we are directly contributing to.
It's not an all or nothing thing. Wherever one lives, there will be plant based options we can consider sometimes
@LewisT83756025@bikeswithbells@Rado9910 [1/2] I appreciate you arguing in good faith and granting that there is a real problem.
I don't think anyone is asking you to become an activist. Only whether we can reduce suffering where possible.
Sometimes, that can be as simple as getting oat or soy milk rather than dairy.