@silverhalo8318@Azy1Piece Honestly, I wish they would have given a better showing of how strong he really was.
Some people still think he was weaker than Barragan or Ulqiorra.
@outofwritings@Jussdin_ Don't forget that his power was also suppressed by the substitute soul reaper badge. Though we don't actually know by how much.
Plus he was exhausted by the time he got to round 2 with Ulquiorra.
@shelbyofweb_3@DiceeJohnn24277 Considering he did 0 actual damage to Haribel? Considering Ulqiorra's abilities aren't going to supply Hitsugaya with water for him to use to imprison him?
Of course not.
But Ulquiorra doesn't have the advantages Hitsugaya had against Haribel either. . .
@shelbyofweb_3@DiceeJohnn24277 And as for Full Hollow Ichigo vs Ulquiorra. . .
Are we REALLY calling that a fight? That was a one-sided ass kicking. It wasn't a fight. It was a complete domination. Ulquiorra stood no chance I don't know how much more they could have done to make it clear.
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@shelbyofweb_3@DiceeJohnn24277 Really? Were gonna pretend those fights were relative?
Hitsugaya struggled to fight Haribel, despite his Zanpakuto giving him a type advantage against her. Even then, he could only contain her, NOT beat her. She wasn't even damaged when she broke free of his ice
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@valenti78539680@mangaeurope@pkf_master For what? the only assumption here is that Haribel hadn't gotten much stronger. but there is nothing in either TYBW or CFYOW that would make anyone think she had.
@AKMessiah@Nerdcognito Let me guess. You started with 3.0 or later?
There were no rolls for persuasion, intimidation, bluffing, etc before 3.0. It was all vibes, and how well you could ham it up & convince the DM to let you pass.
See my above statement about how this separates TTRPGS from video games.
@kondak321 He is awesome, and the LAST captain I would ever want to fight.
Byakuya or Kenpachi? They would just kill me.
But there are things worse than death, and Mayuri keeps at least a dozen of them in his coat pockets.
@multidoppler@FAAAAAAAAANI_ Damn straight. Hachi actually mangaged to managed to. . .
A: Help Soi Fon land her Bankai, and actually do real damage to Barrigan
B: Actually landed the killing blow, by turning Barrigan's own power against him.
And C: Fixed Orihime's Shun Shun Rikka
@mangaeurope@pkf_master In CFYOW, Haribel says she could still beat Grimmjow, but it would be a tough fight. He got a LOT stronger, but was still below her in power.
And she hadn't really gotten any more powerful.
But both of them are still way above Ulquiorra by then, even with Segunda Etapa.
@Plixeon@Nerdcognito In the old days before 3.0, there were no skills or rolls for social checks. You either role played it well enough to convince the DM, or you failed.
They added dice later, but the DM still has discretion, and can override a dice roll. For better or for worse.
@Barni467945@DreamDemonVT@MulaudziFD@Sassythelight Yeah, and Stark can fire blasts like this, that hold just as much, if nor more power.
Ichigo's body was exhausted, and he had only a fraction of his power available to him.
Ulquiorra doesn't 'scale' to Vasto Lorde Ichigo. He was fodder.
@Sassythelight Stark. It isn't even close.
The version of Ichigo that Ulquiorra fought was exhausted, battered, and suppressed by the Substitute Soul Reaper badge.
Stark got jumped by 4 top-tier captains, and he STILL needed to be taken down by a last ditch, all or nothing cheap shot.