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Trek & Wars tech, canon wars, #StarshipVolumetrics, et al.

Originated: Trek as Post-Scarcity, parallel Lucas canon, & more ideas you've seen on YT & Wikipedia

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Here's a "pinned tweet" thread because I want to pin more than one.

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@EAFPW_Official @Commodore256 @AndrewCFrancis The 1964-2005 live-action productions are the #StarTrek Original Universe. That's TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, the TMP films through TUC, and the TNG films.

(Jeri Taylor also canonized her two VOY backstory novels. No one of higher rank ever disputed it, but many ignore them.)

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@Flanker30MKI If it was full, ought it not have sunk immediately? Indeed, I'm no expert, but the height of float suggests it was empty, which seems odd.

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@DADEZCMURPHY85 @jtimsuggs https://t.co/8lvwEbf4Hs

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@RadarFennec They had a ~10% hit ratio on the Tantive IV, a firefight that largely took place in constrained corridors that were target-rich environments.

This is one half to one third the typical hit ratio of American police officers, a figure typically considered abysmal.

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@RadarFennec They had a ~10% hit ratio on the Tantive IV, a firefight that largely took place in constrained corridors that were target-rich environments.

This is one half to one third the typical hit ratio of American police officers, a figure typically considered abysmal.

[hw97karbine @hw97karbine]

The use of such netting is what inspired the development of the "Highball" variant of the bouncing bomb

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@keramikpott @lmaosuine420 @skip_super @accuweather Is that a concession?

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@keramikpott @lmaosuine420 @skip_super @accuweather We can grant that stinger loss is the typical outcome, but it is extraordinarily stupid for you to continue insisting that a honeybee cannot possibly sting twice.

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@keramikpott @lmaosuine420 @skip_super @accuweather In response to a video of a honeybee working its stinger loose from human skin, someone said it'd be funny if it stung him again. You stated that a honeybee cannot sting twice because it will lose its sting and die the first time, and you've insisted on that point twice more.

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@keramikpott @lmaosuine420 @skip_super @accuweather "I won't delete the reply where I'm incorrect because I still think what I incorrectly thought is worth knowing."

That's a helluva take, dude.

[Alex Griswold @HashtagGriswold]

By far the most egregious example of this

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@Kostiantyn1024 That was introduced five years after the larger, longer-range Boeing 707. Contrast the messy Soviet cockpit with the smoother one, seen here in April 1958.

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@N7spongy Discarding Disney is also not a choice I'd throw shade on.

Me, I'm a Lucas-canon-only sort. I take TCW all the way through the Story Reels, for instance, but not the additional season or two they spat out even though it probably still had a lot of Lucas in it.

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A little semantic trick here, a little handwaving there, and everything is just fine, you see. Nothing to worry about, fellow Completists ... resistance was offered so now reality is debunked!

[Dark Meld Depot-SW @Catlover10000S]

None of these things were EU killers. Just small patchwork was needed and the canon could have moved forward fine. Coruscant had mountains in some depictions—easy visual fix. Han Solo taking Kyp skiing lmao? Harmless fun that didn't break a single thing. The prequels and Clone Wars timeline shifted forward significantly, but Pellaeon serving in the Republic military easily patches the 40-year discrepancy without touching the rest of the EU. Boba Fett's whole Jaster Mereel name situation in the old books? Minor retcon territory that was already being handled. And the attachment rule? It departed from post-RotJ EU Jedi, sure, but it was one philosophy tweak, not a foundation smasher. Real lore fans know these were never deal-breakers. The EU was flexible enough to absorb the prequels with light edits and keep rolling. The "it all has to burn" crowd just wanted an excuse to scrap decades of stories they never read.

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@N7spongy I have no idea, but please note that I am not throwing shade on EU-philes en masse. Enjoying the EU is fine ... treating it as your personal canon is fine. The issue comes when EU-philes transition into EU Completists, demanding everyone believe the myths that they do.

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(Just for accuracy, do note that the "God or the checkered flag" quote was, alas, not from Ross Chastain. That was from Andy Jankowiak in a separate incident.)

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This is the sort of thing you need to rewatch every once in awhile for inspiration.

Pedal to the metal . . . throttle balls to the wall . . . whatever it is that entails taking it to the max, let's go.

[Johnny Midnight ⚡️ @its_The_Dr]

NASCAR Fans Probably Remember this! They made this illegal because it worked so well! 😂

[Matt Cooper @MattMoreOften]

@its_The_Dr Every once in a while, do something that makes them name a new rule after you.

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@heavenly_otter @galaxyclassproj Also, how about the Intrepid Class?

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@heavenly_otter @galaxyclassproj Do the Ambassador and Nebula looked fine zipping about?

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@heavenly_otter @galaxyclassproj If you're combining the concepts "Galaxy Class" and "a little ungainly" / "a little silly when zipping about", you're probably thinking of the four-footer "Bulldog" model, the only one in the series to really do so. It was fatter and less well-proportioned than the six-footer.

[The Mighty Dud Bolt @mightydudbolt]

People are coping and saying it's because of bad lighting or something. Here's a simple shot of some practical clones from Andor. All they have to do is stay in one place for one simple shot and stand in formation, but they still all look like a bunch of cheap, awkward, differently sized and proportioned cosplayers. And this was probably the BEST take.

Even the CGI clones in Episode II look and perform better in all the ways that actually matter. They look like competent, cloned soldiers wearing sturdy, durable armor. Yet they can also move in a swift and coordinated manner, and perform actions requiring physical strength, precision, and agility.

Importantly, every clone in every shot can be carefully adjusted by the animators, whereas in live action (as we've seen) it's a struggle to get a shot where every clone looks credible and consistent, even after multiple takes.

Lucas going all-CGI with the clones was a controversial decision even within ILM, some of whose artists tried repeatedly to talk him out of it. But Lucas knew from hard experience exactly what the limitations of practical troopers would be. He made an excellent call, maybe one of the most important calls he made on those films from a visual standpoint, and he's been vindicated on this matter as he has been on so many others.

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@SothManigan Finally, we're in a hellish "post-truth", "anything goes" nightmare where it's not abnormal for people to say apeshit counterfactuals in pursuit of their goals.

The PEUCs are thus extremely well-positioned in the current milieu.

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@SothManigan Another is that there *were* interesting EU characters like Thrawn, and even interesting storylines. The old EU authors constantly reference stuff, and Disney plays up their reintroductions on TV, so this all tends to create a "good old days" view of a gilded age that wasn't.