I'm Sabastian Harris, Cyber Security professional in malware automation, Constitutionalist, law scholar, and hopeful Michigan Congressional Candidate for 2028.
@OliCat12@SacredWestOG If we arbitrarily assume without established reason, big foot could beat it, it's still not established, so it doesn't beat the dilemma, it circles back to the dilemma on truth, is something true because God says it's true, or does God say somethings true because it's true.
@OliCat12@SacredWestOG Ok, if your god is for an established fact Ipsum Verum, then according to your old testament yes, but, it hasn't been established yet, so it reverts us back to the dilemma on the subject of truth.
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@Jackievia1999@JakeLang Yeah & when you do it's the people who have to pay the price, not them, not the Democrats, their are Dems, Reps, Christians, Muslims, Jews, pagans, Atheist, & more who don't agree or aren't even a part of any of that, who reject that way, don't they matter? we are the people.
@MyersRay27594@FLALoudMouth I'm retarded? You got your head shoved so far up your presidents ass you can't see what the fuck is going around you. You mother fuckers chose party and a foreign nation before your own, just like the fucking democrats? Your both the same. Your going to kill us all with this shit
@afi_eastcoast88@FascistImperium So is yours, and your a fuckin minority, you put your religion in our government then fuck our constitution and attack the peoples religions then start a religious war? We the people are an army mother fucker you both are mere factions who won't ever Unite to save your lives.
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@OliCat12@SacredWestOG Yes, Socrates asked euthyphro about piety outside the court, Euth said piety is what gods love, Soc says gods disagree, Euth changed his answer and that led to the dilemma, socrates asks if the gods love something that is pious or if it is pious so they love it.
@OliCat12@SacredWestOG But just saying God is truth itself doesn't establish that he is truth itself, it requires me to already believe he is. & In polytheism, beings with superpowers is an oversimplified teaching within the church, not polytheism.
@PatriotMikeinFL@Matthew1514896@alwaysRize@MagaGrunt1 Naaw mother fucker, wrong faith, Your parties killed Americans, you chose your parties over the people and a foreign nation over ours. You fuck our constitutional rights and side with a pedophile. You started a religious war and feed us shit propaganda, Fuck you party bitch.
@OliCat12@SacredWestOG But how can we establish good is not independent of a God, if God is goodness itself how do we establish that without arbitrary assumptions? & I define the gods as real, separate divine powerful beings, but limited, not all are creators, all knowing or all powerful or moral.
@OliCat12@SacredWestOG Good argument but it leaves a question empty, you applied God says it's good so it's good, but not it's good so god says it's good. It implies God's control of morality as a fact without establishing it. How can we establish that good is not independent of a God?
@steveth75737857 You didn't to begin with you dumb fuck, Democrats and Republicans created this problem, all that matters is the people, you chose against us, you chose party and so did they. The Muslims don't want your heads, the people do. Fuck the parties, fuck trump and fuck Republicans.
@OliCat12@SacredWestOG We don't know if it's subjective, or objective. There is no consistentcy and religion doesn't apply to logic. It exist beyond logic, many gods cannot defeat the dilemma and one cannot defeat it, the argument is irrelevant because it can work one way or the other.