@ctindale Sulfuric acid is expensive to move. Instead companies move elemental sulfur, which weighs only a fraction, is much safer, and is produced in huge quantities by most refineries. Making sulfuric from sulfur is a standard process. China's restriction is not that scary.
@tihoma@JLinvilleFert In theory, it would not be too hard to restore to farmland. However, a fully developed PV site is FAR more valuable. Once they have the grid interconnect, permits and the substation, the cost and time of repairing (and maybe even upgrading) the site is modest.
@JLinvilleFert@tihoma Civil work adds huge cost to project. The goal is to move zero dirt if possible. Ideal situation is to have sheep graze to keep the plants down. No concrete either, just posts.
Repaneling this site will be relatively cheap and quick. All these sites are insured for this.
@Helion_Energy The thing about neutrons is that they are hard to stop. Therefore, most of the ones that get to the camera sensor travel right through it! Not so easy to calculate neutron flux without knowing that detection fraction.
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ReMo is proud to announce our first MOU with Trammo. We expect to build our first green ammonia plant at Trammo's ammonia terminal in Meredosia, IL. I would like to sincerely thank Trammo "leaning in" to the green economy.
@JesseJenkins Most green H2 will be used to replace conventional H2 used today in industrial chemical processes. Namely, for green ammonia, and green methanol. Those applications make thermodynamic sense. Heating and transportation, not so much.
@ramez Iowa farmland now going for about $15k/acre. That's about $0.34/sqft. Large greenhouse cost today is $2-$4/sf. If you get the yields up by 2x (doable), lower nitrogen input costs (doable), eliminate herbicide/pesticides. Maybe only need 2X lower costs? Scale alone maybe enough?
@NiyerClimate So, in your view, is there any way to procure unbundled RECs that would comply? Wouldn’t it be possible to procure RECs in the region?
(I appreciate this dialog btw)
@NiyerClimate In practice, the electrolyzers will preferentially run when power prices are low, which tends to be when renewables are producing a larger portion of the supply anyway. Conversely, they will idle when power prices spike and the CO2-intense peakers are running.
@NiyerClimate I may disagree with you on the spirit. The subsidy is as much about getting the green hydrogen industry down its cost curve as it is about reducing CO2. Allowing unbundled RECs helps get you there. I think this was explicitly discussed during senate debate.
@NiyerClimate Not that easy. If you do BTM, you have lower CF (thus lower IRR) and you have to co-develop with the RE developer, which adds deal complexity. Moreover, the H2 demand is almost never co-located with where RE project economics are good.
@JLinvilleFert@pgoehaus33 Depends on the fertilizer as well. Refusing to move anhydrous is not a big deal because most railroads have already made it so expensive that not much is moved that way. Not moving urea or UAN, which are not nearly as hazardous, would be a huge deal.
@cody_a_hill@TimMLatimer Not so easy to switch the existing plants over. New plants, IF they have access to low cost RE, can sell at below the fossil price. Plus, they can locate closer to the end user. This dynamic will result in more fossil ammonia being exported.