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@DChadwickAuthor It’s actually an interesting question. And as far as I know, the answer is: We don’t know. That’s not been revealed. We don’t currently understand everything about how an omniscient God chooses work.
@DezGoth Just remember, by their fruits you shall know them. If they are really kind, friendly, generous, welcoming, virtuous and knowledgeable about scripture, it’s because they are literally following demons. Hope this helps! 😉
These kinds of images often bring tears to my eyes. May God welcome home the heroes who have laid down their lives for their friends and may he strengthen, bless and comfort those who are left behind by such sacrifices. Happy Memorial Day!
That’s true. You did not claim that Jesus created himself. Please forgive me if I came off as putting words in your mouth.
I certainly agree that one could read Colossians 1:16 and assume that Jesus created Lucifer. But notice what you claimed. You said that it implies that he created Lucifer. It doesn’t actually say that explicitly. I think that if one is being honest, one would have to admit that it is at least theoretically possible that maybe the verse was not trying to imply this thing that it does not explicitly state.
To give another example, again, forgive me if I’m putting words in your mouth, but I assume that you probably believe that after Matthias was called to replace Judas the traitor, apostles were not called to replace those who had died among the 12.
However, Paul is referred to as an apostle, James the brother of the Lord as well. Depending on how certain verses are interpreted, it’s possible that Barnabas, Andronicus and Junia may have also been referred to as apostles.
My understanding is that many Christians believe that Paul was an apostle, but a special case being an apostle to the Gentiles in addition to the 12. It’s also my understanding that James is believed to have been an apostle only in the sense of the word apostle meaning one who is sent forth, rather than being a replacement for any of the previous 12 apostles.
To be fair, it’s not totally clear that Barnabas, Andronicus and Junia are indeed clearly named as apostles in the text. You could understand the wording to mean something different.
But again, all these are things that you cannot know by just reading the text of the Bible. You can make such assumptions if you like. But I don’t know of anywhere in the Bible that makes clear that Paul was a special case rather than being a new member of the 12 apostles. I certainly don’t know of anywhere that clarifies that James the brother of the Lord was not an apostle in the same sense that Peter was. In fact, when it mentioned James as being an apostle, in the same context of Peter himself.
You seem like a nice guy Andy, and I’m happy to exchange ideas with you like this. I appreciate the fact that we can disagree while remaining civil and polite with one another.
But I just don’t see how you can read the Bible and be 100% certain that your interpretation is correct and that mine is wrong based solely on the text of the Bible itself, without seeking confirming revelation from God through the Holy Ghost.
I really don’t think it’s much of a stretch to consider the idea that those verses just might mean that Jesus is literally the first born of God the Father and that the father gave him power to create the heavens and the Earth. And that the author just assumes that one is intelligent enough to consider the idea that when he says Jesus created everything, he’s obviously not speaking about the fact that Jesus created himself. This is just one more case where there’s ambiguity in how the text can be interpreted and you can’t know for certain that you’re doing it correctly without further revelation from God, just like James tells us to seek for. You seem to be equivocating requesting revelation through the Holy Ghost, or the Comforter as Jesus called him, with allowing yourself to be guided by random feelings, rather than with the act of obeying a commandment that was given in the Bible.
James 1: 5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering.
No offense, but again you’re claiming that your interpretations of these scriptures are the only possible valid interpretations even though the verses could be interpreted in other ways. You are free to do as you like, but I choose to trust the still small voice, especially since I find that the Bible fits incredibly well with the doctrine of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. All the best, my friend!
I would say he must be mistaken given the fact that the Lord has made perfectly clear that he condemns fornication. As to the question of whether there can be scripture outside of the traditional biblical canon, such a huge change in pattern would appear to merit an especially clear mandate from God on the subject. That would have been a radical change from the previous one and a half millennia. But I find nothing in the Bible that clearly makes that claim in an unmistakable fashion, that can only be interpreted as an obvious message that the scriptural canon is closed. What I do see is people taking scripture passages that could be understood to mean a number of different things and then people declaring that the passage definitely means the thing that they interpret it to mean. No offense, but you seem to have just done so with Col 1:15. Given the high stakes and the lack of a clear mandate, why would we not want to do what James tells us and ask of God?
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Andy, the way I see it, there are a number of different ways to understand and interpret a number of different Bible verses… Sound more literal than others. That’s a great verse you share. Interestingly, the verse before that talks about Jesus being the first born of all creatures, which actually appears to support the doctrine of our church. With something as important as this, it seems to me that we probably don’t want to just rely on the hope that we’re properly interpreting the Bible. Instead, I think it makes sense to seek wisdom of God, just like James encourages us. One way to do that would be to read the Book of Mormon with an open mind and the determination to obey whatever the Lord reveals to you. Then ask him if the book is true. I can testify that I have asked him and received the answer in my mind and my heart that it is true. I respectfully invite you to give this method a try. You might be surprised. Have a great day!
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