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@garm_8492 @Gzalzi This is pretty disingenuous. These numbers are less than a week after Marathon got a huge content drop AND went f2p for a week. If you go by the MIDDLE of season 1 (to exclude the high of launch and the low of end-season), marathon was ~20k concurrent

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@CountSmakula @Forcer69 with a valuation of around $3b as their only income source.

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@CountSmakula @Forcer69 6-8x isn’t a guess. You can do some research on it. It obviously isn’t data coming directly from Bungie, but it’s a very common range for pc/console games with long average play times. It could be more like 10x on the high end, but that still isn’t sustainable for a studio of 850

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@CountSmakula @Forcer69 If they had spent less money on it or had other games earning profit while this one was recouping costs, it would be fine. But this game just cannot financially support Bungie for the 3-5+ years it would take to make another game.

[Zack S. @Shank7z]

@CountSmakula @Forcer69 It would still take around 2 years to recoup just initial development costs, even assuming EVERYONE will spend similar amounts as you on a monthly basis for 2 years. I don’t want the game to die, but the numbers are just objectively not good enough for a studio of this size.

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@LeighShake31413 @justaddwatter It literally says this directly above the chart: Daily online players
Total unique players that have played any activity on a given day. Dates are in the UTC timezone.

[Zack S. @Shank7z]

@LeighShake31413 @justaddwatter POPULARITY REPORT IS DAILY PLAYERS. NOT CONCURRENT PLAYERS. PLEASE READ, I BEG

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@LeighShake31413 @justaddwatter That’s just not true. There are literally 0 sources that show that. There are 300k players A DAY. But that just means someone logged in at some point, even for just 5 seconds. Concurrent means the people who are currently on the game at any given time, and D2 sits around 60k-100k

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@CountSmakula @Forcer69 If every single one of the ~60k total marathon player consistently spends as much as you (~$300 over 3 months), it’ll only take Bungie a little over 3 years just to recoup the initial cost of developing the game! OMG they’re making huge money!

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@Andrewmeda11 @jester_mango As someone with thousands of hours in both, they’re not even remotely close. They’re both sci-fi looter shooters, and that’s about where the similarities end. The gameplay and overall feel of each game is completely different. I love them both, but wf could never replace Destiny.

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@LeighShake31413 @justaddwatter Not concurrent. 200k-300k unique players a day. Only about 60k-70k concurrent most of the time and was still usually above 50k before the end was announced. So not 200k concurrent but still way more than… *ahem* some other Bungie titles.

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@ArthurMac304 @dwzongfr @Bloodshock230 @ensee_eu Except it’s the exact opposite. You used to be able to earn stuff for free and trade up to whatever items you wanted. The more you played, the more you could earn from selling crates. New players could get stuff for free from friends who had extras. Now you get nothing without $$

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@Moosieth @123_relentlesss @PaulTassi Brother it is objectively a financial disaster. They spent $200m+ making the game and sales only recovered a TINY fraction of that. Regardless of how good the game is, you can’t say it isn’t an objective financial failure just because we don’t know their exact internal numbers.

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@Suxu_tatukaze @PigsluvBacon @DestinyTheGame @Destiny2Team My guess is it’s a teaser for the new hunter aspect. Probably lets you do something with golden gun outside of the super

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@sam_telepak @Destiny2Team Most likely not. Prismatic only has 1 melee from each class and smoke bomb, while boring, does provide a useful benefit to prismatic in being able to weaken enemies without wasting a fragment. So I highly doubt they’d swap smoke bomb out for this new one.

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@HousofOnion @Destiny2Team This is just the bubble rework, new void hunter melee, and new void warlock aspect. The titan and hunter aspects ARE the solar ones, but they aren’t showing them yet.

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@thenoblewolf1 @Stormcompass @Destiny2Team Talking about the article, not the update. It’ll be tomorrow, most likely between 10am and 2pm PST

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@ElyR1uM @CANAD1AN_KRONiC @myelingames @Aztecross I mean, Marathon’s player count dropped below Destiny’s weeks before the end was announced.

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@Snarkley831 @DestinyTheGame Being mad because maybe you only bought year of prophecy thinking there would be tons more content afterwards is completely fair. But everything that you officially paid for (minus the rewards pass coming on the 9th) has already been delivered.

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@Snarkley831 @DestinyTheGame It doesn’t have to be shadow and order at all. This was always a free update. The only thing you paid for that you haven’t received is 1 more rewards pass. They could technically just add that pass to the game and nothing else, and you still would’ve received all you paid for.