Daniel Shuster

[Daniel Shuster @ShusterRTS]

The 1960 Democratic Party Southern Strategy: "The Party With A Heart --- The Party Of The People [...] White Supremacy"

[Aaron @Aaron_Moatz]

I absolutely dispute the accusation of a nefarious “southern strategy” by Republicans at the top. And “realignment” is most relevant to the distinct faction of the Southern aristocracy, the planters, who did not “realign,” they simply lost control, leaving the South to be more representative. The South was not democratic. It was hardly even part of this country. It was a colony of the Democratic Party, its elections determined in the primaries, operating under their own party rules (such as the exclusion of blacks) and only because of the protection of national democrats. Nixon uprooting the planters is one of the greatest achievements in American history, the end of a struggle that had gone on for over 100 years.

[Aaron @Aaron_Moatz]

@Brosephus4 @MPTremoglie It isn’t coherent to view history in terms of “conservative vs liberal”
It should be viewed in terms of “Republican vs Democrat”

[Daniel Shuster @ShusterRTS]

@EdConwayNZ @Aaron_Moatz @Turn_and_Tempo @bungus_man @TheKanehB @jcranmer12 @e_galv Koinonia. It all ends there for you.

[Daniel Shuster @ShusterRTS]

@Aaron_Moatz @EdConwayNZ @Turn_and_Tempo @bungus_man @TheKanehB @jcranmer12 @e_galv Stop arguing with a segregationist apologist. Worthless

[Daniel Shuster @ShusterRTS]

@Aaron_Moatz @EdConwayNZ @Turn_and_Tempo @bungus_man @TheKanehB @jcranmer12 @e_galv If only one could produce an unending list of articles depicting racial segregation as “progressive government” around the turn of the century in Georgia with the indomitable approval of someone named Woodrow Wilson.

[Daniel Shuster @ShusterRTS]

@EdConwayNZ @Aaron_Moatz @Turn_and_Tempo @bungus_man @TheKanehB @jcranmer12 @e_galv Jesus

[Daniel Shuster @ShusterRTS]

@EdConwayNZ @Aaron_Moatz @Turn_and_Tempo @bungus_man @TheKanehB @jcranmer12 @e_galv There simply isn't any other way of describing these monstrous dorks as neo new deal segragationists

[Daniel Shuster @ShusterRTS]

@Aaron_Moatz @EdConwayNZ @Turn_and_Tempo @bungus_man @TheKanehB @jcranmer12 @e_galv The history of the Democratic party seems impossible until you read threads like this.

[Aaron @Aaron_Moatz]

You’re missing the point. We’re talking about what happened to the southern planters themselves, those that controlled their states. They remained democrats. Most followed planter form, adapting and devouring, become servile to whatever would retain power.
But no, democrats did not tell Wallace to pound sand. It’s hilarious you think him barely getting 3rd place by only a few percentage points was some noble rejection. The other Dems desperately tried to win his favor. McGovern had Wallace speak at the convention, said he would take a Dixie reunion tour, told Wallace his voice would be heard (be honest, how would you view such things if Republicans did them). After ‘72, they tried even more desperately to win his voters. They chose another planter, and longtime friend of Wallace, Jimmy Carter. Even in 1980, Carter launched his campaign with Wallace (and many other of the worst segregationists). After the crushing defeat in ‘72, the Dems were in lockstep, with media running cover for Carter.
Carter is the perfect symbol of what happened to the final stage of planter political influence: no real ideology, willing to say or do anything, no idea what he’s doing, and Dems willfully ignoring his past

[Daniel Shuster @ShusterRTS]

@PineTreeGOP

[Daniel Shuster @ShusterRTS]

@Max_Sarcasium1 @Aaron_Moatz @gobbionekenobi @JustADad24 @lorraine01640 Oppo

[Daniel Shuster @ShusterRTS]

@Max_Sarcasium1 @Aaron_Moatz @gobbionekenobi @JustADad24 @lorraine01640 Sry, probably not clear. If the party’s flipped why would almost entirely R’s vote R and D’s vote D throughout the entire 20th century?

[Daniel Shuster @ShusterRTS]

@Aaron_Moatz @gobbionekenobi @Max_Sarcasium1 @JustADad24 @lorraine01640 Has anyone ever had a coherent answer to this?

[Read The Score @ReadTheScore]

Why lie about Columbus?

https://t.co/3zIF1ZlM3G

[Aaron @Aaron_Moatz]

I agree that next generation are different, though we can look back to a time when there was a “white primary,” when blacks were literally not allowed to participate with one political party unless they had sufficiently proven loyalty, a time when there was a portion of the country completely undemocratic, unrepresentative, under a system of oppression, and one that could only exist because of protection from the party at the federal level, and most Dems I talk to today would still support that party if they could go back in time to this era (like supporting FDR). It is a political calculation liberals of the time made, continued to make through LBJ, and would still make.
I’m not sure how unpledged electors shows “realignment.” Planters used every last ounce of their power as leverage against Dems, including protest votes in ‘48-‘68, with Dems typically caving. They did not have this relationship with Republicans. Smart Republicans like Nixon knew that it was in the party’s best interest to destroy the planters, and let the otherwise conservative region be more representative, vote on economics and defense. It was not “realignment.” Planters lost power, the South became free

[Aaron @Aaron_Moatz]

1. Yes, of course, and that isn’t any kind of indictment. You also have to keep in mind that there are a lot of groups, like a feminist white supremacist, or New Deal segregationist, that just really aren’t types of people anymore in significant numbers.

2. They shifted based on priorities of the times, the entire time Rs being the more “conservative” party. It’s right to look at them in terms of coalitions, but we have the be specific (planters is a distinct faction. The “south” is not). I fully acknowledge that a modern liberal is not the same kind of a person as a racist planter that is enforcing Jim Crow and the white primary, but pretty much every modern liberal would still vote for FDR at a time when all of the planters power was fueled by the national dem party. So they should be able to perfectly understand that political calculation, that coalition, and really would seem to admit they would still make the same political calculation. I would not make that political calculation

[Daniel Shuster @ShusterRTS]

@DataAmericanUSA @Aaron_Moatz @micyoung75 Oh the seg Dem. Shocking

[Daniel Shuster @ShusterRTS]

@Aaron_Moatz @DataAmericanUSA @micyoung75 Hey, planter apologist @DataAmericanUSA, who’s your fav version of George Wallace? The planter segregationist, or the planter segregationist?

[Daniel Shuster @ShusterRTS]

@Aaron_Moatz @DataAmericanUSA @micyoung75 250 years of southern planter apologia from the Democratic Party and they still don't know what side they’re on @DataAmericanUSA

[Daniel Shuster @ShusterRTS]

@Aaron_Moatz @DataAmericanUSA @micyoung75 Like a generational Party defect, these people must get the planters wrong.