cops showed up this morning, came ready to shut the whole operation down, had the handcuffs and everything
made the officer try one jar
he went quiet, looked at the sky, looked back at me, put the handcuffs away
he asked me if i had a business plan, i said yes
he pulled out a pen, asked where to sign
TLDR on @rewkang’s podcast w/ @APompliano
FIGURE🦿
Andrew came across @Figure_robot deal in 2023
Had no experience investing in Robotics
So asked VC friends for advice
Most were skeptical and told him to pass
VC robotics bets hadn’t produced many winners
US🇺🇸 VS CHINA🇨🇳
Andrew evaluates robotics firms in 3 categories:
1. Manufacturing
2. Hardware design
3. AI capabilities
China is the clear winner in manufacturing
China is leading in hardware design too
US only has Figure/Tesla
China has 100s of diff specialized hardware designs
US has an edge over AI capabilities
AI capabilities are critical cause without brains
Robots are useless
Andrew thinks tech produced ≠ market cap
BYD sells more cars than Tesla
But BYD mcap is 10th of Tesla
US robotics companies offer higher mcap potential
HUMANOIDS VS SPECIALIZED ROBOTS 🤖
Andrew agrees specialized robots are more effective
And their adoption will be earlier than humanoids
Argues that humanoids can be mass produced cheaper
The world is not static so flexibility will be valuable
ROBOTICS TRAINING DATA 🕶️
World models have changed the game
They are trained on internet video data
Despite not as good as teleops/egocentric/sim
They are still very valuable
And there are loads of them online for free
There is still need for egocentric data of specific tasks
But the scale of data needed to be collected is
Lower than expected compared to 9 months ago
JOB DISPLACEMENT 👨🔧
Andrew thinks job displacement is real
Cognitive jobs will be displaced by digital AI
Physical jobs will be displaced by physical AI
UBI is not optional but necessary
ROBOSTRATEGY $BOT
OpenAI and Anthropic went nuts in a few years
If you had invested in top AI companies few years ago
You would have outperformed the best seed funds
Same vertical takeoff will happen for robotics
Robostrategy is a publicly trading closed ended VC fund
It is currently trading at a premium to NAV
NAV premium allows them to raise more capital
Via issuing more shares accretively to shareholders
Not enough people are talking about physical AI and robotics.
I sat down with @rewkang, one of the best investors of the last decade, to discuss his massive bet on humanoids and robotics.
He breaks down the industry, the addressable market, multiple leading companies, and why he launched a publicly-traded fund ($BOT) focused on investing in the top private robotics companies.
YouTube: https://t.co/aBFxTzP2Kg
Apple: https://t.co/9KnbfWL6Wv
Spotify: https://t.co/ZVRprV7bdT
TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Intro
1:28 - Why Andrew shifted from crypto to humanoid robots
3:58 - How big is the total addressable market?
8:08 - Building conviction — the $19M bet on Figure AI
16:06 - US vs. China — who wins the robot race?
28:08 - General purpose vs. specialized robots
31:05 - Where does training data come from?
40:24 - Humanoid robots in your everyday life
43:27 - Can Tesla & Elon win the humanoid race?
46:19 - Job displacement & UBI
51:15 - RoboStrategy — the publicly traded venture fund
1:11:17 - What is exciting about Apptronik?
1:13:24 - Addressing the critics
Samsung & SK Hynix bonus season just hit different in Korea
Luxury sales near their campuses:
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🟠 Watches: +85% YoY
🟠 Overall luxury: +53.6% YoY
Quiet beneficiaries: Shinsegae, Lotte, and Hyundai department stores near their campuses are reportedly all seeing luxury sales up 40%+
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