Snarky Recluse

Writer of mental pudding. A grown-up version of Tina and/or Louise Belcher. (She/Her)

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@Jamjar_Jam @internetarchive @smilerz91 Where? The thread doesn't conclude one way or the other. Very simply, it states the opposing arguments and concludes by saying the courts will decide.

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Recently finished the excellent horror novel HIDE by Kiersten White. A game of hide-and-seek in an abandoned amusement park goes off the rails. Super well done. So much fun.

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@Jamjar_Jam @internetarchive @smilerz91 I guess we'll find out.

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@Jamjar_Jam @internetarchive @smilerz91 Nope. Show me where I said traditional lending libraries harm authors. If IA followed the same process for e-books as traditional libraries, they wouldn't have gotten themselves sued.

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@Jamjar_Jam @internetarchive @smilerz91 Not what I said.

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@internetarchive I also want a progressive Utopia. But until that happens, we need to find ways to not harm our creatives, pay them enough to live on, so we're not stuck in a place where the only people who can afford to make art and write books are rich people and corporates.

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@internetarchive @smilerz91 @Jamjar_Jam So continue to digitize books for the archive and agree not to lend anything that is still within copyright. This means you won't be harming authors because they can still potentially make money from their back catalog.

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@ccrobin_ @smilerz91 @Jamjar_Jam I think NYPL opened up to all, without having to be local (I'd need to confirm), which makes them different from your standard community library. Mine works like yours. I needed to get a card.

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@Jamjar_Jam Yes. I know. One-to-one and a 14 day lending limit. It's the in perpetuity part that differs from traditional libraries.

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@ccrobin_ @smilerz91 @Jamjar_Jam I have not confirmed this but if NYPL and DCPL operate like other trad pub libraries, then when they purchase an ebook license, they can lend it X number of times or for X number of years depending on the publisher.

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@ccrobin_ @smilerz91 @Jamjar_Jam I believe you. When I said huge, I meant reach and I should have been more clear. And I love that NYPL opened up access to everyone. That is brilliant.

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@mypantsaretorn @Jamjar_Jam Yes. Scale is the thing that makes this a complicated problem. How do we proceed as a global virtual community that wants to both provide free access to books and support the creatives writing those books.

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@ccrobin_ @smilerz91 @Jamjar_Jam Agreed. Compared to small town libraries their scale is giant, their reach vast. And that, I think, is the core of the question. How do we proceed with global library lending, while still supporting creatives, when there is virtually no limit?

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@ccrobin_ @smilerz91 @Jamjar_Jam Giant tech 501(c)(3)?

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@mirta0001 @gilbert_dev @Jamjar_Jam Agreed. I love library sales.

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@smilerz91 @Jamjar_Jam I am a terrible estimator. And every book is different, you know.

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@mypantsaretorn @Jamjar_Jam They have a lending library. It's called a lending library on their site. And they are tech company with lots of donations. My very uninformed opinion is that their budget is bigger than most county libraries.

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@smilerz91 @Jamjar_Jam The physical copy eventually degrades and must be replaced. There is a shelf life. And if the book is still popular, then the library buys another copy.

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@smilerz91 @Jamjar_Jam If I buy a book and lend it to you, nothing stopping that. Cool beans. If I am a giant tech company with reach and capital that calls itself a library, I think it should follow what other libraries do.

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@smilerz91 @Jamjar_Jam If IA is a library, why can't it buy ebooks like other libraries?

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@smilerz91 @Jamjar_Jam What are the long term repercussions of buying one $30 book where the author earns $2 of that, digitizing it, then lending it out to potentially millions. I want people to borrow books. But I also want writers to be able to continue to write them.