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[snowyprints @Snowyprints]

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[Khalil @A_Keyboard]

https://t.co/Fzw8wMLnKA

[Rei @rei_labs]

Our team’s opinion after the recent AI discourse is pretty simple: frontier AI is moving fast, but no one should use a scaling curve to dictate the research pace for everyone else.

Given the state of machine learning as a whole, no one has a license to act like the core problems behind AGI, RSI, or ASI are close to solved.

The more sober view, in our opinion, is that we are moving out of a pure scaling era and back into a research era as Sutskever or Le Cun say. Scaling gave the field a lot. No serious person should dismiss that, and no one serious should be saying “stop scaling” or “stop frontier research.” But current systems still fall short in ways that matter: they can be brittle, they struggle under distribution shift, they do not learn continuously the way humans do, and they still lack the kind of grounded, reusable understanding that transfers reliably across very different contexts.

This is why no one should be dictating the pace of research as if the hard part is already behind us. There is still a massive amount of research left to do.

Sutskever’s “finite data” point is important because it cuts deeper than just “we need more data.” It points to the limits of relying on internet-scale pre-training as the main engine of progress. At some point, the question becomes how systems generalize, how they learn efficiently from limited signals, and whether the learning mechanisms themselves are enough.

The original “world model” crowd (May the meaning of this terminology rest in peace alongside “memory”) says that it’s not just that LLMs have flaws but that intelligence requires machinery for world models, grounding, memory, planning, and prediction in latent space. A system can be very good at modeling language while still missing the structures needed to understand and act in the world.

If clean data, feedback, and training signals were effectively unlimited, distillation and model-extraction attacks would not be such a major strategic concern. The fact that frontier capability itself becomes something others try to copy is a reminder that learned competence is scarce. It also suggests that the main mechanisms LLMs currently rely on to improve may be far from sufficient to reach super-intelligence or efficient learning.

These opinions are more AI-friendly than anything. Looking forward to progress across many areas, while giving the big labs real credit for what they have achieved in language, code is far more positive for the field than pretending we are already close to AGI or ASI when we clearly are not there yet.

And while we are not there yet, the large influx of serious STEM talent into AI is unbelievably good for the industry. Researchers from across math, physics, biology, engineering, and the rest of science are increasingly taking AI seriously, building with it, testing it, and bringing their own standards into the field. That should be celebrated as it means AI is attracting the kind of people needed to solve the rest of the problems.

Domains that are not compatible with prose strengthen the main point. A model can be excellent at language, code, and digital workflows while still being far from robust general intelligence. Physical prediction, causality, affordances, action-conditioned planning, and reasoning across long time horizons are still hard problems.

So yes, today’s models may reshape coding, security, science workflows, and other areas. That is very real indeed but it does not mean we already have the a perfect recipe for autonomy, alignment, continual learning, causal understanding, grounded world models, or reliable long-horizon reasoning.

The public conversation would be much healthier if it could hold both ideas at once: frontier models are good while there is still a lot left to do on all angles.

[snowyprints @Snowyprints]

@Innerdevcrypto is this like os vs moat argument? or
access desire seems like hard coded

[snowyprints @Snowyprints]

@TaikiMaeda2 I’m sorta superstitious but trading around events is always a recipe for disaster lol honeymoon!…ya got stones man
It’s like dark matter where real life value extracted is determination demonstrated as of results

[snowyprints @Snowyprints]

Takes thinking outside the box

[Cryptic Tits (npc/acc) @cryptic_tits]

gonna keep beating this drum because i think the market is misunderstanding $REI ...

the main criticism i hear: "a small team can't compete with OpenAI building their own LLM"

they're not building an LLM!! that's the whole point

OpenAI = language models (systems that predict text)

REI = reasoning substrate (a system that thinks independently and uses someone else's LLM just to talk to you)

closest comparisons are not ChatGPT or Claude. they're Ndea (Chollet's lab), Verses, Symbolica - alternative AI architecture labs valued at $750M - $5B

REI is making the same type of architectural claim. the difference is access: those labs are private and oversubscribed. REI trades as a token at a fraction of the valuation.

the bet isn't "can they beat OpenAI." the bet is "can reasoning exist outside a language model." if yes, this is mispriced by orders of magnitude. if no, nothing else matters

papers are coming. that's when the claim becomes verifiable. until then it's conviction

[snowyprints @Snowyprints]

More shroomin homies

[Bryan Johnson @bryan_johnson]

This is biblical.

A woman in her eighties. Ten years into Alzheimer's. Hadn't spoken a full sentence in five years.

Takes one, 5 gram dose of psilocybin.

She slept 19 hours and woke up and spoke for hours about her life, recognized family and held real conversations. She regained bladder control after five years, walked on her own. and dressed herself. Gains held for weeks.

[snowyprints @Snowyprints]

@0xsmac @molesy39 Enjoyed listening to this and thx for sharing, I found it encouraging.

[Rei @rei_labs]

It’s hard to disagree with the direction of this. But it’s worth being honest that the neuro-symbolic lineage lost to scale for most of the last decade.

At the surface, everything collapses into prose. Fluent text is a poor record of what produced it. Two systems doing completely different work underneath can return the same paragraph. Whether anything symbolic is happening has to be answered below the language layer and not in the prose.

LLMs are excellent at prose, and they’ll remain relevant in that era. But prose is not the thing to lean on once a task needs real adaptation, verification, planning, or abstraction.

The lineage has been kept alive in places with DeepMind’s theorem-proving work among them and it’s finally starting to look right again.

[AJP @ajp_digital]

grei - in plain sight @rei_labs

[Rei @rei_labs]

https://t.co/5CHInC13bz

[snowyprints @Snowyprints]

@RickCrosschain rick the goat

[Cryptic Tits (npc/acc) @cryptic_tits]

I've spent time looking at $REI purely from a technical perspective, but this overview is completely focused on investments and valuations.

banger quote: "Distribution can be bought. Interfaces can be rebuilt. Integrations can be replicated. A working reasoning system with learned structure would be a more technically specific asset"

@ajp_digital places REI in the "NeoLab" category - alternative AI architecture labs currently valued at $750M -$32B in private markets

REI gives public access to that thesis at a fraction of the price.

[reitern @0xreitern]

Rei Core Stack

[snowyprints @Snowyprints]

@ajp_digital One of the best reads for $rei by far

[snowyprints @Snowyprints]

Really a must read….
for the culture

[AJP @ajp_digital]

https://t.co/vAAEc3PYVN

[ML @c0xswain]

where we're at with AI agents on the gartner hype cycle

[snowyprints @Snowyprints]

@stogolp yep $rei @rei_labs is the tikr

[snowyprints @Snowyprints]

@RickCrosschain @ggdotxyz Wow congrats man. I remember you saying at like 170k don’t fade this dev lol nice one!

[snowyprints @Snowyprints]

@cryptic_tits grei