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[SolFrizzy @SolFrizzy]

Then why should we translate anything? Every translation is in itself a loss of meaning from the original, since you can't put a society knowledge into a translation, without using a lot more words than the original text.

[bob_₳F @bobasfk]

Seen people say the pun works and should have been included but the pun doesn't work for multiple reasons, ill try and explain

First of, the Cyclops' name is Polyphemus (Πολύφημος) which means 'of much fame' 'renowned'

Odysseus saying "Nobody is my name, Nobody is what they call me...'' ("Οὖτις ἐμοί γ᾽ ὄνομα: Οὖτιν δέ με κικλήσκουσι...") sets the stage for a standoff between ''Nobody vs Renowned''

after he pokes his eye the cyclops exclaims ''Oh friends, Nobody is killing me either with trickery or force!" ("‘ὦ φίλοι, Οὖτίς με κτείνει δόλῳ οὐδὲ βίηφιν.")

To which they respond "If indeed, then, no one is doing you violence, since you are alone..." ("εἰ μὲν δὴ μή τίς σε βιάζεται οἶον ἐόντα....")

Here the part they say ''μή τίς'' means ''no one'' and sounds as one word instead of two phonetically ''μή τίς -> μητίς'' which translates to cunningness

so the pun is that no one and cunningness sound the same in Ancient Greek and Odysseus' hallmark trait of which he is renowned for throughout the poem destroys ''the renowned''

Nobody won vs the Renowned

So its not just ''nobody is attacking me'' and they say ''okay''. That doesnt do justice to the whole thing, it is bankrupt of meaning and it would seem stupid

There's double puns and meanings in those few lines and it doesnt translate well. Hell, it doesnt even translate that well to modern Greek

Its also one of the main themes that Odysseus is cunning so the passage points to that too. or that Odysseus is renowned for his cunningness but he is nobody who won vs renowned by using his renowned cunningness.

So you see?

i think i just wasted 20mins nobody is gonna read through all this but if you did now you know why this passage of the poem is renowned😅

P.S the Homeric poems are unbelievably hard to translate to plays. their stories are hard to contain and the meanings are subtle and do not always translate well. It is a monumental undertaking and you can easily get lost as a director if you try to copiously give the poems justice. Nolan made an adaptation that was fun to watch and corresponded to modern audiences in limited time. The win here is that this movie will point people to the books and subtle meanings within them.

so chill with the negativity, Homer does not need defending, he withstood time

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@hPndGcIRWX12266 What paintbrush do you use to obtain this effect at such a small scale?

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@BraayAX3 @MakkroLoL If you lose 70% hp through 3 levels up and dshield + second wind + 1 potion + probably revitalize and dealt 0 dmg yeah, you played like a hog

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@MakkroLoL Like i generally agree with your opinion, but here aatrox played really bad prior to this play and shouldn't win the all in

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@MakkroLoL So if a ranged as taken you down to 200 hp while still being 100% they should lose just because you are the wholesome melee champ and should always be pardoned for playing the first 3 levels like a hog. Kappa.

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🚨🇮🇱 BREAKING: Israeli settlers hunt down CNN media crew in an attempt to murder them

Nobody can convince me to support this.

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@RealHappyPig Durissimo

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Imsim Empire

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@Polygon I honestly think whoever wrote this shouldn't be allowed to give his opinion about magic for the rest of his life.

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@wachelreeks @33elkMTG A button that has a 1/10 chance to give you a Marvel commander, no thanks

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@nurieaaa "Learn to adapt to marksman in toplane" and "keep mages out of botlane" is the only correct opinion

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@DjFPrune Quel "oh che cazzo, non so cosa dovevo dire" è una roba che direbbe polnareff

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@MakkroLoL Are there really that many ranged top? I feel like the perception is really skewed

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@RealHappyPig @offtopicmarta

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@MakkroLoL I love that my "reward" makes me wait more time every time i die than anyone in my team. Only quest with a downside.

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I would have deleted all my socials after being bodied THIS bad

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unfortunately i love geoff keighley too much for this clip he mogged joe so badly 😭

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>Italia Neanderthal
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