Hi, Michelle. I'm going to try to respond to this post, as my eye is finally better! But only to this post and its thesis, that SSPX is, like your cat coming in and going out, somehow indecisive and neither leaving the modernist Church (as heretical) nor giving up its decades-long struggle and accepting Vatican II's doctrine and new mass and ending the division. I don't want to enter a protracted discussion--I'm not qualified and anyway would bore you! In anticipation, cutting to the chase, I am so glad they stay right up in Rome's face without yielding an inch of traditional doctrine and liturgy.
It is true that in pursuit of clarity over the doctrinal points at issue, there was some wobbling. Bishop Fellay in April of 2012 offered to accept Vatican II as long as it could be 'interpreted in light of tradition,' said the new mass was both valid and licit, and said the 1983 Code of Canon Law that expressed points at issue of VII as Church law could be accepted. SSPX clergy and laity protested, and in July of 2012 a General Chapter was called and issued a new document to Rome that said SSPX demanded "freedom to prohibit, correct, and reprove" VII, to exclusively celebrate the old mass, and the erection of internal tribunals to bypass the new Code. That unequivocal position has been maintained by the Superior General replacing Bishop Fellay up to now, Father David Pagliarani. These conditions were presented by SSPX to Rome at that time as firm clarifications of Fellay's offer, and the negotiations collapsed. The July statement and the election of Pagliarani represented the dominance of the SSPX 'hardliners' with a moderate wing seeking a personal prelature with Rome and a loosely organized breakaway group led by the expelled Bishop Williamson, the 'Resistance.'
SSPX has grown and its bishops have aged and it is physically impossible for them to continue to confirm laity and consecrate new priests to celebrate mass and administer the sacraments, and this 'state of necessity' has led, after years of discussion, to a scheduled consecration of new bishops, resulting in threats of new punishments by Rome. The names rumor is suggesting will be consecrated are all hardliners with positions of authority within SSPX, and because SSPX endured excommunication for so many years without diminution of its support and a complete erosion of Rome's coherent justification for such a radical punishment of Catholics guilty only of practicing Catholicism as it had been for centuries, there is no dread of that outcome, but only confidence that Rome will eventually come to its senses.
I personally pray that SSPX will stay right where it is, as I heard Bishop Fellay express it at one of the Kansas City conferences, 'out on the porch in the rain knocking on Rome's door, and Rome comes, and SSPX asks if they are ready to reject the errors of Vatican II and Rome shouts "No!" and slams the door and SSPX resumes knocking.' If Roman authority are men able to see and hear, eventually the relation of the terrible chaos in the world to the flawed doctrine of Vatican II (as powerfully predicted in Lefebvre's "They Have Uncrowned Him') will become clear. SSPX continues to express that connection at every opportunity, SSPX laity like myself continue to try to show it, and as long as we stay the course there is hope for the precious doctrine and liturgy of the True Church and not that protestantized mess holding the real estate but not the truth.
@BradJamin3 Not all of socialism's economic steps are bad and in fact are sorely needed in Australia and the West in general. National control of some industries including banking , as in Russia still, for example. What is wrong with socialism is its atheism and its policy of class struggle.
@RoseG42302460@RealCandaceO@grok Could you show the trends in each item in the post? That is, the direction of number of abortions, etc.? And could you add the support of homosexuality in each country?
Here's what @grok told me about it: Homosexuality and same-sex behavior have been documented in nearly all cultures (ancient Greece/Rome, parts of Asia, Native American tribes, etc.), sometimes tolerated, ritualized, or even idealized in specific contexts (e.g., certain pederastic practices or "two-spirit" roles). However:These were minority practices within overwhelmingly heterosexual societies.
No large-scale society has ever been predominantly homosexual or built its core institutions (marriage, family, inheritance, reproduction) around same-sex pairings as the norm. Acceptance varied widely, but the demographic reality did not: the vast majority of people formed heterosexual relationships for reproduction and social continuity.
@ashley_cooper95@giveashitnature Sources close to Mother Nature report She was gasping for air and grateful to the tribe for helping Her get Her act together.
@elsariel79@TheLaurenChen You can't hate what is revealed about gays adopting and at the same time confirm your gay friends and their retinue. Contradiction. I stated the healthy and only alternatives, heterosexual marriage or celibacy.
Your lord Zeus tolerates cowardice. Find a real God and grow up.
The magisterium already spoke on religious freedom, ecumenism, and collegiality long ago. That teaching is negated by VII and the present hierarchy. You can find the discussions between SSPX and Rome easily, and very many books describing it. Rome denies the magisterium.
@sineiudicio@PaulinusOfTrier@shiningsweu What would be the spiritual value of watching it, when one already understands the suffering of Christ and the temptation He endured? I really asking. If there is any reason to watch it.
@JonasGwin I use Dawn (to unclog drains too, with boiling water). I keep two sponges, one in use and one to rotate in. Every time I run the dishwasher I pop the 'one in use' in and replace it with the spare. They come in contact with Dawn constantly but only mildew if they sit out damp.
"Recently, Cardinal Pietro Parolin, the Vatican Secretary of State, affirmed that, regarding the deviations of the German bishops, the Holy See does not wish divisions to escalate into punitive measures, emphasizing that problems within the Church should, whenever possible, be resolved peacefully. Why should this approach not also be applied to the Society of St Pius X (SSPX), which denies no dogma, recognizes the primacy of the Pope, prays for him, and professes filial devotion to him, while preserving only what the Church believed and celebrated universally until the Council? At the same time, the German Synodal Way has advanced clear doctrinal deviations that promote de facto heresies and even blasphemous positions. Why, then, should reconciliation and patient dialogue be emphasized in one case but not in the other?" — Bishop Athanasius Schneider, appointed by Pope Francis in 2015 to serve as a Vatican visitator to SSPX seminaries and houses.