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Lutheran. Just Lutheran.

[Substitute Lutheran @SubstituteS23]

@GerhardsGhost @vedabenerabilis I'm reading through Hollaz right now. I appreciate his clarity. But often his answers are too brief for my liking. He gives the right answer and not too much else. That would be fine if he were more diligent in directing his readers to where they could find the fleshed out resp.

[Substitute Lutheran @SubstituteS23]

@vedabenerabilis A dogmatics text can be two of these: thorough, comprehensive, brief (relatively....).
Gerhard: Thorough, Comprehensive.
Pieper: Thorough, brief
Quenstedt, Hollatz: Comprehensive, brief
Chemnitz: actually brief

[That Art Guy 🦬 @ArtGuy313578051]

I don't want to hear anything about Roman Catholics or Evangelicals from American Lutheran YouTube as a primary channel focus

Apologetics regarding Atheism, Anti-Trinitarians and Mormonism must take top priority

Everything else in apologetics must be secondary

[Substitute Lutheran @SubstituteS23]

@DrJordanBCooper As a researcher, it gives me a very nice starting place--and often it feels like its the only starting place. Who else has a work like this?

[Substitute Lutheran @SubstituteS23]

@DrJordanBCooper I do research that bumps up against Preus pretty frequently also. In his defense, he is summarizing 10s of thousands of pages dense Latin and German, and the history. Like any survey work, encyclopedia, etc., it can be great in the broad strokes, but miss in the details.

[Substitute Lutheran @SubstituteS23]

Likewise, when there are useless, foolish displays that are not profitable for good order, Christian discipline, or evangelical practice in the Church, these also are not genuine adiaphora, or matters of indifference. (FC SD X 5 and 7)

[Substitute Lutheran @SubstituteS23]

What kind of ceremonies and rites are LARP? The Book of Concord can help us! First, what is not larp:

"the community of God in every place and every time has, according to its circumstances, the good right, power, and authority to. . .

[Incredulous Papist @IncredPapist_]

Western rite orthodoxy has to be the larpiest thing ever.

[Substitute Lutheran @SubstituteS23]

[Ceremonies that] make a show or pretend that our religion and that of the papists are not far apart in order to avoid persecution, or they pretend that the papist’s ceremonies are not at least highly offensive to us. . .[extrapolate this out to other confessions of faith]

[alyosha oxygen 🕊 @alyosha_oxygen]

genuinely serious about this. my parish, for example, has no debt, decent finances, and a school attached they’d love to re-open some day. the infrastructure is there. if we got a few young families, some couples, and some single folk, we could rejuvenate the parish.

[Substitute Lutheran @SubstituteS23]

@TheJollyBrawler Now, I get that children can be a handful and aren't going to get it right all the time, and sometimes as a parent you need the help a coloring page provides. Yet the parent (AND OTHER ADULTS) should recognize that participation in the service is what we are growing children into

[Substitute Lutheran @SubstituteS23]

@TheJollyBrawler Yes! Children should not be doing a "separate thing" during the Divine Service. They need to be active participants with their parents. This is where hymns and liturgy are so helpful. Parents letting kids color and play with toys through all service is the same problem.

[Substitute Lutheran @SubstituteS23]

@averagelutheran One of these days, I'd like to see an "Ancient Christian Commentary on Scripture" except its the Lutheran Orthodox fathers.

[Lyman Stone 石來民 🦬🦬🦬 @lymanstoneky]

The history of kids in church is one of ceaseless contention. Institutional churches have repeatedly throughout Christian history rejected kids in the service, and within a few generations have been shocked to find adults who don’t care for the service.

[Substitute Lutheran @SubstituteS23]

@ArtGuy313578051 @RevIsaacWirtz But the moderate left is completely beholden to the crazy left. Critical theory wokeism is specifically designed to subvert institutions, especially leftist ones.

[Substitute Lutheran @SubstituteS23]

@__smule__ I gotta say Ive been shocked by the # of families who’ve visited our church and thought our lack of childrens church was an oversight or result of our small size rather than an intentional choice

Also shocked by the # of parents are embarrassed of having their children in public

[Substitute Lutheran @SubstituteS23]

@matt_e_cochran How many lay assistants can you have? How many people attend church? Obviously being a lay assistant can’t be a mark of church participation or an “activation of the priesthood of all believers.” Its actually an expansion of what counts as “clergy”

[Substitute Lutheran @SubstituteS23]

@BoC_stan @KonigDFB @Acolyte_1 I also suspect its a bit exaggerated. On the other hand, churches generally weren’t heated! So layers might be the reason!

[Substitute Lutheran @SubstituteS23]

@Acolyte_1 @BoC_stan Having done a decent amount of research into this topic, the only constant I can see is that clergy wear some kind of black uniform with white accents (usually at the collar) and for services wear a white gown of some sort over it. The white gown is optional.