The Ten Commandments are not Jewish.
The Old Testament is not Jewish.
The entire Bible is Christian.
Genesis to Revelation is all about Christ.
Jesus literally says, “For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me.” - John 5:46
Sure these things came from Hebrew people but Moses was Christian. David was a Christian. Daniel was a Christian.
To emphasize that the Ten Commandments or the Old Testament belongs to Jews who hate Jesus is foolish rhetoric.
@chrisryankugler I think a second issue I see as well is how The Jewish concept of the messiah has been hijacked and re interpreted into a framework that is, at times, the antithesis of who the messiah is and his mission here on the earth.
@ReformedCaio@rootcausesleuth@DBJ540 So God decrees for humans to sin, but they do so of their own volition, not because of divine determinism. Is that statement correct from your view?
@DBJ540@ReformedCaio@rootcausesleuth I’m not gonna lie, I think there are too many sub conversations happening within this text and it’s hard to
Keep up. This might just need to be a one on one convo.
@rootcausesleuth@DBJ540@ReformedCaio Also, so there’s no confusion, I’m not an Armenian or a Provisionist. My Soteriology more aligns with a messianic Jewish perspective
@DBJ540@ReformedCaio@rootcausesleuth The example I would use is the Sinai covenant. God lays out the promises and curses of the covenant and determines the blessings and punishments based off of Israel’s obedience or disobedience. He isn’t causing their behavior, He’s causing the results of their actions.
@DBJ540@ReformedCaio@rootcausesleuth I would say there’s a distinction between first cause and determining cause. To me it seems like you’re combining the two distinctions fully where as I see God as having both attributes but the determining cause is circumstantial based on human obedience/disobedience.
@DBJ540@ReformedCaio@rootcausesleuth Not necessarily. I don’t think God was the first cause of the fall or the cause of sin that people commit. I think we as humans do that easily on our own without influence.
@DBJ540@ReformedCaio@rootcausesleuth However, if you start with God being a Just creator and his sovereignty following suit, then I don’t think you run into that problem of Him being the author of sin… but that’s just my take…
@ReformedCaio@rootcausesleuth@DBJ540 But going back to my initial question, if God both wills and causes humans to sin, then how is he not the author of sin? I genuinely want to hear your perspective on this.
@DBJ540@ReformedCaio@rootcausesleuth I guess I’m having an issue with grasping how the decree (Gods will) and His providence (how He accomplishes things) don’t make him the author of sin since He both wills and accomplishes both actions. Or am I missing something else? If so, please explain. Thank you.
@The_Idol_Killer@Jondaphemp See this is where I think the reformed need to take a deeper look. From a Jewish perspective, Gods sovereignty isn’t what governs humanity, it’s his Divine Justice.
@lsanger “The real question is whether our doctrine must acknowledge that other entities that we call “gods” exist. Answer: no. Others call them “gods”; we call the same beings “demons.”
Have you interacted with Heisers work regarding demons being disembodied spirits of the Nephilim?