@ChristopherHale What an L take…
You should not have posted the video of Bishop and did what you normally do, and post his words with no context.
How you could think you are dunking on the great Bishop here.
What, are you saying socialism is the utopia?
You’re just sewing division.
There is a way past the absurd and deeply divisive “war” between the President and the Pope, which has been enthusiastically ginned up by the press. And it is indicated in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraph 2309 to be precise. After laying out the various criteria for determining a just war—proportionality, last resort, declaration by a competent authority, reasonable hope of success, etc.—the Catechism points out that “the evaluation of these conditions for moral legitimacy belongs to the prudential judgment of those who have responsibility for the common good.” The assumption is that the just war principles function, to use the technical term, as heuristic devices, designed to guide the practical decision-making of those civil authorities who have to adjudicate matters of war and peace.
The role of the Church, therefore, is to call for peace and to urge that any conflict be strictly circumscribed by the moral constraints of the just war criteria. But it is not the role of the Church to evaluate whether a particular war is just or unjust. That appraisal belongs to the civil authorities, who, one presumes, have requisite knowledge of conditions on the ground. So, is the war in question truly the last resort? Is there really a balance between the good to be attained and the destruction caused by the war? Are combatants and non-combatants being properly distinguished in the waging of the conflict? Do the belligerents have right intention? Is there a reasonable hope of success? The posing of those questions—indeed the insistence upon their moral relevance—belongs rightly to the Church, but the answering of them belongs to the civil authorities.
The Pope has said, on numerous occasions, that he is not a politician and that his role is not the determination of any nation's foreign policy. But he has just as clearly said that he will continue to speak for peace and for moral constraint. In making both of these claims, he is operating perfectly within the framework of paragraph 2309 of the Catechism. If we understand that the Pope and the President have qualitatively different roles to play in the determination of moral action in regard to war, we can, I hope, extricate ourselves from the completely unhelpful narrative of “Pope vs. President.”
@miayea3@BishopBarron I'm curious, not arguing. If you think Trump & Co. does not really believe its narrative: that "Iran is closing in on a nuclear weapon, and poised to use it" - what then are their aims for starting this war?
If they really believe that is true- its Just. If not - why start it?
The statements made by President Trump on Truth Social regarding the Pope were entirely inappropriate and disrespectful. They don’t contribute at all to a constructive conversation. It is the Pope’s prerogative to articulate Catholic doctrine and the principles that govern the moral life. In regard to the concrete application of those principles, people of good will can and do disagree. I would warmly recommend that serious Catholics within the Trump administration–Secretary Rubio, Vice President Vance, Ambassador Brian Burch, and others–might meet with Vatican officials so that a real dialogue can take place. This is far preferable to the statements on social media.
I am very grateful for the many ways that the Trump administration has reached out to Catholics and other people of faith. It has been a high honor to serve on the Religious Liberty Commission. No President in my lifetime has shown a greater dedication to defending our first liberty. All that said, I think the President owes the Pope an apology.
@BishopBarron Look at all these Ad Hominem attacks on the Bishop. You detractors aren't convincing anyone with such poor arguments. Its just screeching into the void.
A recent statement by Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez illuminates the Marxist ideology which continues to take hold of American politicians. Here are my thoughts.
@Nala_Jake@DefiantLs@grok is The Roman Catholic church very clear in their teaching that abortion is intrinsically evil? Therefore is it nonsensical to say the Church is to blame when some random liberal ladies who say they're catholic say some ridiculous phrase like "abortion is healthcare"?
@atrupar This is smart. He knows this hurts his headlines, but this is one of those moves that makes me certain he really cares about Americans. It’s not fair to hurt middle class to help the lower middle class. Or hurt 40 year olds to help 25 year olds.
@MattWalshBlog On the topics of finding the truth. Youve been a beacon for the country.
But on this topic, The less the public hears from you the better. You’re after political power and success and completely ignore the brutal death of a citizen because he’s on the “other team”. Be objective.
@michaeljknowles Are you capable of being objective? Or are you loyal to party first. Where in the video do you see him being even SLIGHTLY threatening???? Was it when he was helping the woman who was just shoved???
You’re not helping , you’re exposing yourself as one who is against truth.
@libsoftiktok@FBI oOHHh nooo! He was in signal groups! He was a liberal activist oh nooooo!!!! Maybe he deserved to be executed unarmed by the federal agents who attacked him while he was helping a woman who was violently shoved to the ground!!!
@Cernovich Thrice a Trump voter. I don’t even consider myself a centrist.
This is such a bonkers take. All of the people defending the murder - you are showing yourself as unobjective party follower sheeple. Do you stand for your party or do you stand for truth and justice. Be honest.