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@Elfrom2024 @ItsTaz1989 But the Boriswave might be citizens in 2029 so what good does abolishing ILR do?

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@AlexDemSoc_161 @xGh0stZ3ro Not really. If we’re using the Italy comparison, they have factions that are more akin to FN, but the leadership is more like Meloni. They’ve denounced ethno-nationalism unprovoked (which pissed off a lot of members) and have ruled out denaturalisations except for criminals.

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@ZoomerHistorian @angloid0 Why are you saying this as if Restore have a Farage-equivalent to take over before the next GE?

You’re comparing Restore with Tice’s Reform.

This argument makes no sense.

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@FUDdaily The issue is what party can exactly challenge in 2034? The Tories will never properly reform themselves. Reform might not exist. Restore too. And with how dire the situation will be then, there won’t be the time for any half-measures like all 3 of the parties are offering now.

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@MrGeraldRoland @orm0nde The 5 million is just illegals and recent immigrants, most who haven’t had kids here yet. And a small number of citizens who committed crimes.

The white % would go up now, but the WB birth % would stay around 53%. It’ll just buy us an extra 5-10 years maybe.

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@RomanoGreek @YorkSmit2323 What is this based on????

Their policy is basically just removing illegals (who dont even show on the census) and about 3 million others, most of whom dont have kids yet.

Currently, Europeans are 63% of registered births. These policies would maybe get it back to 65% at best.

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@YorkSmit2323 @catminim666 They aren’t. They said it’ll only be for criminals, which is already the law.

They won’t denaturalise those on welfare, not working, etc.

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@AngloSaxZoomer @OswaldsTopGuy They said only in cases of obtaining via fraud or if they commit crime.

Read the last paragraph. They say they won’t denaturalise people who they think never should’ve gotten it (as long as they aren’t a criminal).

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@1Matt_Alexander @Steve_Laws_ This is the worst bit. If the Boriswave and others get citizenship, they’ll all stay.

The 5 million target is nonsense. In reality it could end up less than 2 million depending on what Labour do by now and the next election.

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@augusteprompt Okay but you realise it could end up being nowhere near 5 million, because if all the foreign nationals they want to remove get citizenship, they’d no longer be deported.

It all depends on Labours ILR reforms this Autumn.

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@CommonSense_FT @ZoomerHistorian Fraud or deception.

Read below. They explictly say they wont denaturalise based on them simply disagreeing with past Governments’ decision.

Its not illegal to pledge a policy. So thats not an excuse. Also they can denaturalise based on economic conditions, not ethnicity.

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@vrilainy @Faustian_Future Are they? From what I’ve seen, both are pledging to remove the same number of people (illegals, burdensome foreign nationals, naturalised criminals). But that’s it.

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@BarbourJihadi @JackHadders But the 5 million figure is based on all foreign nationals not getting citizenship by then.

They said won’t denaturalise naturalised citizens unless they committed a crime, so if the Boriswavers get citizenship they wouldn’t deport most of them. So it cant be 5 million.

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@TERFSMURF_3 @ZoomerHistorian @LagboatUK1 The 5 million figure is bs. They work on the assumption that the Boriswave and current ILR holders won’t be citizens by 2029. If they are, it’ll be more like 2 million (mostly illegals).

Idk how these people can’t see that.

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@TheHughAnthony Read the actual policy. Its just for those obtained by fraud and criminals.

They said they won’t denaturalise people who didn’t commit crimes, so if welfare claimants or people in enclaves get citizenship, they’d stay.

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@MidwitNPC @Con_Tomlinson The main issue is that most foreign nationals & Boriswavers could be citizens by 2029, so they wouldn’t actually deport many people outside of illegals. It’s quite decieving.

I’m not asking for the world from them, but I’d expect they go a bit further than this.

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@MidwitNPC @Con_Tomlinson “Their citizenship is not conditional upon our judgement of the governments that
preceded us. Our responsibility is therefore both to deal decisively with what can
still be changed and to govern fairly, reasonably, and pragmatically…”

Doesn’t sound like they’ll revoke many.

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@MidwitNPC @Con_Tomlinson It’s so weak. It only applies to people who obtained it fraudulently which is a very small number. Citizenship is so easy to get that basically nobody needs to decieve the state to get it. It’ll hardly affect anyone.