@rajaidog@StraightAs123 "At the time walks were the best bang for the buck."
this is not clear at all. this is like the midwit takeaway. it was more "Moneyball made this dogma"
As baseball unfucks itself from the trend its now:
"HEY NOT WALKING IS THE BEST MARKET INEFFICIENCY BC DERRR ANALYTICS"
@rajaidog@StraightAs123 it was kind of more about "Hey wow whoa hey whoa look at this guy I am infatuated with and am making de facto propaganda about" and the lesson was indeed learned. Now ALL FOs are inept twits who use stats both as "why" they win and as cover for not winning.
@Courtsidecom@benwhitelaw73 just look at the way you approached my initial comment with a WHOA GOTHYA chart and my response: "Yes I know. Everyone knows. Since the day baseball started everyone knows,in general,the idea that ALMOST ALL pitchers throw slower/worse with more pitches"
horray: basic knowledge
@Courtsidecom@benwhitelaw73 people think there's a revelation of WHOA MORE PITCHES IS WORSE PITCHING and have latched on to "third time through" -- no its also 2nd.
This is not some esoteric confusing subject ON THE WHOLE where its like "OMG what? Guys are worse on the whole with more pitches???"
@donniesull1van@Seth_3773 you keep rewriting the point McClung is making and then mine as well.
the point is there's
1) some growth which is normal and always happens
2) different measurement systems which in MLB are NOW proprietary
3) ON TOP OF THAT possible fraud that's used as a marketing tool
@donniesull1van@Seth_3773 what do you interpret the term "conspiracy theory" to mean? is the implicaton that fraud doesn't exist? what weird childlike fantaasy are you living in? presumably you're old enough to have lived through the steroid era.
@donniesull1van@Seth_3773 also you keep killing me with "our" which is just a way of saying "I'm a part of a group of people who have this wrong" which is exactly my point
@donniesull1van@Seth_3773 uh, guys gassing out is def going to lead to higher velo much shorter outings and lower ERAs. but yes even if for some reason you don't accept that its still higher velo overall if they're pulled early. so any analysis of velo "improvement" has to start there
that's basic logic
@donniesull1van@Seth_3773 I have seen something like him before and so have a ton of people so Don's "We the Baseball" doesn't hold.
Noah Syndegard is almost identical. Schittler is about the same. Glasnow was a little like this.
Miz throws like 5 innings and gasses out and who knows if he'll last.
@jogeor_ some of these guys have the mental processing ability of young children. people have a hard time understanding that bc they look adult and act adult and can dribble and shoot.
there's a reason teams can't' run offense consistently and games against small countries are now close
@JonPgh imo creating a commissar system of "Hey its all random variance/playoffs a crapshoot" is sort of part of it.
its too hard to compress the ideas here but hopefully you get it.
@JonPgh what they want is to not expose their books. they're already hard colluding to salary suppress. letting that leak out in a AI and data environment is catastrophic cross industry. the cap is a good cover/contains.
@FantasytipsMatt@JustinMacmahan its just a cool guy thing to say that is vaguely LW.
that level of social understanding is how you can be a 1b with a career .680 ops and remain employed and getting ABs into late career.
@FantasytipsMatt@JustinMacmahan lol i am glad you finally agreed to the basic point that its b.s.
they can afford to pay for it they just allocate differently.
and anyway if you ddnt have enough money for insurance its covered and if you do you can just buy it but really why would you.
@LevelThePaField but you aren't. its called "level the paying field".
without open books how would what you're proposing work exaclty?
and who would stop circumvention?
@en_enapps@williamnyy23 the dialogue around it is so dumb its hard to know what scam is being run and by who. imo the entire thing is merely a cover for mass collusion and tax workarounds that is already happening in an extreme way.
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