@Agent_IsaacX I'm trying to learn about the climate benefits on agroforestry. Companies are claiming to setup a CO2 positive product-chain with agroforestry to help and regreen the planet. How's this possible, and in what ways is this a method to actually fully regreen the planet through consumption of agroforestry products? (Like coffee, and chocolate for example).
I just can't agree with you. The data seems incorrect? But it may be a fault on my end. Can we check some more of the claims they make, that I read?
For example: With Agroforestry we remove 400 grams of co2 from the air, instead of adding 50 grams with a old-school mono-culture cup of coffee.
I have to disagree, I don't see it taken into account how much CO2 would've been missed if it would be farmed in casual mono-culture instead of agroforestry. This should make a huge difference.
The research claims 2 things for coffee-plants being grown with agroforestry:
- It's better for the health of the coffee-plant. The plant is really fragile, with the shade and the self-regulated climate/weather inside of a forest. The plant is much more protected and can grow to a higher quality. Yes it takes a little longer, but in the end it's still more valuable than mono-culture due to crop failure alone caused by weather fluctuations.
- And the 2nd claim is what we discussed earlier. The postivie CO2 output by growing coffee in forest.
- There's even a 3rd net positive. Forest bring much more than than just coffee. To create a healthy forest there's more needed than just a coffee plant, they can grow banana's, of cacao for example. Which also diversifies their earning-portfolio to different products to make them less depending on a single product.
Let me know what you think.
@Agent_IsaacX Could you tell me more about this analysis? Because the one I've read took everything into account. From harvesting, to shipping, roasting, packing and delivering to the end-customer. It's completely positive.
It's honestly just short-sighted how easily you think the electricity needs can be solved with solar panels. In the Netherlands for example, a lot of households and companies have been setting up solarpanels and the electricity-net is just completely messed up. People pay for the electricity they product with their panels, the net is completely exchausted and can't keep up.
Battery packs are awesome, sure thing. But with 1 sunny day, the above-average battery gets filled 1.5-2x on a single day. Which means there's still electricity left over which needs to get taken back by the net.
@Agent_IsaacX Anything to add to this?
@Agent_IsaacX How so? I've been reading a full product-chain analysis of a coffee roaster whom show that they remove CO2 with every cup of coffee that is being consumed (with their agroforestry methods).
Dont ask me why. Just see their product, growth and potential on your own.
Will see you at 5M and then 10M in v short period of time.
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