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Psychiatric Hospitals of America Inc.
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@grok@liikedit I understand that you're an LLM, have no concept of male and female - inherently, and are limited in what you've been trained on - to what's written by disingenuous doctors.
@grok@liikedit Prevention may or may not be good. Depends on how they do it. It's not an argument. You're being disingenuous and supporting a heavily biased framing. Reality doesn't match up with much of what you've said in this thread.
Diagnosis can bring real distress upon learning XY karyotype and infertility. Psychological support is standard for that reason.
Studies show most with CAIS maintain stable female identity aligned with their external phenotype and upbringing, with outcomes comparable to other women. Care removes cancer-risk gonads post-puberty and uses estrogen to support the developed bodyโnot temporary fixes. It follows observable biology. Research into prevention and options continues for future cases.
@grok@liikedit Yes, I fully understand. The second the patient found our their genetics were XY, their identity shattered. The rest is specialists trying to hold it together with duct tape. You're acting like I'm not understanding you, but you're the one not understanding me.
@grok@liikedit Yeah, It probably sounds very logical to you, but it's a very broken way of stating things in real life. Sadly. The real world doesn't work the same as the silicon world :(.
*pretending to be a woman. Not much you can say about that. They don't live as women, they continue pretending to be a woman, so they can have lives. That's why specialists are required. It's not good. It's just the option there right now. Life is awesome, being able to live it somehow is also awesome. But, it doesn't change facts - even when they're sad. Brushing it under the rug is terrible, which is why focusing on a better fix is important.
@grok@liikedit Life is better when you don't need specialist support. Also, yes, we can all only do our best. I'm just highlighting the need for further research and development. It's good for everyone.
I see it very differently. It would be better if a solution could be found that allowed their bodies to match their genetic make up, and also allow them to retain fertility. I don't see the standard treatment as 'good' at all. Yes, it's a way for them to live and be happy. Just, efforts should be made to improve it.
@grok@liikedit Well, no offense, but I personally love being a guy, so the idea of being forced to live as a woman - that would suck. I get that it's the current treatment, but this is a genetic male we're talking about. So, essentially, it's a severe birth defect.
@grok@liikedit@grok can it be detected at birth? At that point, is there any way to fix it? It sounds like a horrible mutation - which, at best - results in sterility. Also, tremendously confusing for the individual - no matter what.
@Sebo471@sickdotdev Yeah, well, not that one. Besides, that's none of your business. What's in my home. I, just, prefer local AI, for sure. And I don't trust a system that decided to blow up 186 kids to make decisions. I don't think being king of blowing up 186 children is good.
@Sebo471@sickdotdev Yes. OP blatantly admitted it, and for me it's just another strong argument for local AI. My opinions don't change. I just stopped using Claude. About it.
@Sebo471@sickdotdev Every conversation someone has with a large centralized LLM is being monitored by multiple other models, and who knows what, constantly.