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Even Calvin knew that “gift” was referring to the entire clause before it - meaning salvation by grace through faith.
To say it is only referring to only the last word before it (“faith”) would not be a correct reading of the Greek due to masculine vs feminine usages of the pronoun “it”.
@realJennaEllis Yep.
So much time is wasted when Calvinists argue against non-Calvinists while treating faith as though it were a meritorious work.
Paul contrasts faith with works many times.
This should not be a thing.
Calvinists seem to turn the God’s call into an irresistible, faith/allegiance effectuating event.
And if it doesn’t end up with the person repenting and believing, they would call that a failure on God’s part rather than a consequence of the free will God may have given to man.
He won’t engage. His definition of sovereignty is that God meticulously controls everything. Yet, we sin horribly over and over breaking the heart of God. He thinks God meticulously controls/causes that but also not because that’s why. 😵💫
He hasn’t figured out how to solve that contradiction. So, it’s easier to tell you to “do your homework”.
It would depend on God’s general knowledge, how well God knows you and His wisdom.
It doesn’t follow that because God could possibly be wrong that he ever would be.
Just because it’s a possible option that Michael Jordan could lose a 1v1 to Danny DeVito, doesn’t he ever would.
So, the option could be there in a real sense but just never occur because God is just that good/wise/omniscient.
Your first statement is, God knows what you would choose.
Then you say you cannot choose what God already knows you would choose.
Why not stick with would not instead of switching out terms mid argument?
-God knows what you would or will choose.
-You would or will not choose otherwise even with a libertarian free will.
-Therefore, God’s omniscience and libertarian free will are compatible.
Even with the ability to choose otherwise God can know what you would do in a given situation. There is no issue.
@MarioFunk@Chris_Harris111 You don’t think God is omniscient enough or wise enough or powerful enough to know what a libertarianly free will He created would choose?
I don’t pray that they were pre-chosen.
I pray that God would call them and draw them and that they would hear His call and be with Him forever.
How the will truly interacts with the Almighty God is admittedly a mystery to me. As well as what affect our prayers can have. So, I pray for what I want to happen based on my understanding of the kind of system, relationship and will God has decreed our universe.