@LoveMikelArteta like what's wrong with using Kurama's chakra, the dude has been through hell due to the fox, can't let the guy use his chakra, without being called fraudulent.
@spectreofsensui@damedeku Are you saying Hashirama said that or Tobirama? Cause Hashirama said that, and it was the reason why the brothers' feud continued. That way of thinking was presented as not right when he said that.
@spectreofsensui@damedeku Yeah it's understandable, Hiruzen was really the only one who wanted to talk it out so unless Danzo had a change of heart, talking it out probably wouldn't have worked, though Itachi did say that there was another solution.
@spectreofsensui@damedeku Obito says that the discrimination began after the nine tails attack by himself, ironically. But you right that there wasn't any significant power from the Uchiha, there's the jonin council which have a vote of confidence for the Hokage, so idk if they had a role in that.
@spectreofsensui@damedeku True, but again, in Tobirama's view, you can't be too safe, and technically Tobirama was right to fear Madara that much cause the mofo still lived but yeah.
I think Madara and Obito are kinda to blame for the Uchiha massacre too.
@spectreofsensui@damedeku Also, Tobirama wasn't the one who pushed them to the outskirts, it was after the nine tails attack by Obito that they were made to live there. I'm always confused on who did what regarding the Uchiha's treatment because it's not really all that explained in canon
@spectreofsensui@damedeku Tobirama was just afraid that another Madara would appear, he says so that if that happened, the police force would keep those like that in check. This was after Madara had already attacked the village. Madara was living in Tobirama's headrent free, again not justification.
@spectreofsensui@damedeku A few Uchihas is kinda underselling it, up until like a few years ago before the village founded, these guys were literally having generational beef that stretched decades.
He also legitimately was thinking he was doing a favour to the Uchiha.
@AllayaAlla96476@Calamatuim@uzumakifoxe I think your timeline is wrong, when the first Hokage seat was being discussed, the Uchihas sided with Hashirama and that made Madara mad, then he read the stone tablet and that just pushed him to leave the village and attack it. I don't think the Uchiha were slighted then.
@Calamatuim@uzumakifoxe I think there was, Itachi's second death implies that. Again, the solution was communication, Hiruzen tried and should've tried again and again.