@stoolpresidente In the spirit of intellectual honesty, I don’t think there is any legitimate argument that says “gays are not treated well in Gaza; therefore we should be OK with women and children being blown up.”
@stonesndtrees@shadihamid By the way, I do appreciate the discourse & believe all states probably were founded through injustice, so I do believe there is often bias involved when Israel is singled out for its injustices and not other countries that deserve scrutiny as well.
@stonesndtrees@shadihamid I didn’t claim Israel is a white state; I was using a hypothetical example (NY & NJ) as an analogy to challenge the ethics of imposing ethno-statehood on a non-consenting people. Also I don’t know if the Indian reservation system is a good example of a just system.
@stonesndtrees@shadihamid In my NY example, regardless of whether a war broke out that expelled or caused non-white NYers to flee, I believe it would still be unjust to non-white NYers for the UN to declare NY as a white state.
@stonesndtrees@shadihamid 700,000+ ppl weren’t living in that other land though. It’d be like if the US fell and the UN designated New York a white American state and New Jersey a non-white state. It would be an injustice to the non-white NYers to force them to live in NJ.
@stonesndtrees@shadihamid In the same way that if the UN had designated the area that became Israel to be a Muslim state (instead of a Jewish state), it would have precluded the Jewish people in that land from self-determination.
@stonesndtrees@shadihamid I don’t think he opposes Israel’s existence. I think he argues the UN partition was unjust, bc it precluded Palestinians from self-determination. But now that Israel exists, it would also be unjust to force the same thing onto Israelis in return (eg 2 wrongs don’t make a right)
@broseph_stalin This doesn’t seem particularly high on the priority list to make NYC more affordable. The risk of political distractions could jeopardize implementation of his affordability agenda.
@OmerThoughts@AsafRonel I don’t have the numbers so am genuinely curious. And my point is that “intent to destroy a group of people, in part or in whole,” does not mean intent to kill as many of them as is physically possible. That’s why “in part” is in the definition. Agree to disagree.
@OmerThoughts@AsafRonel I respect your opinion as well, but my understanding is that just because a genocide “could be worse” doesn’t mean it’s not a genocide. And re: population growth, has the Gazan population grown since 10/8/23?
@OmerThoughts@AsafRonel The fact that a genocide could have been conducted faster or more efficiently does not preclude it from being a genocide. I also don’t believe the provision of aid in and of itself precludes genocide, insofar as the aid provided is insufficient in counteracting the genocide…
@NickFreiling@TOEwithCurt In order to remove the “neither”, “nor” and “no”, how about “absolute sameness”? (Something only exists if it is perceived in contrast to that which it isn’t, so absolute sameness would be nothingness.)