@TheBadTrad@MetzUAC1530 I believe the Eucharist is the body of our Lord, you cannot be Christian and disbelieve this. Irenaeus, again, supported primacy not eminency.
The orthodox position on the papal see is true imo, it was supposed to be a first among equals not master of serfs.
@TheBadTrad@MetzUAC1530 Yes, it is our deviation from his Church that has caused so much tumult.
The reformation was necessary because of the papist deviation from the Catholic faith.
@TheBadTrad@MetzUAC1530 If we agreed 100% on everything, there would be only one church. I believe true Christians can be found in those denominations, making them real churches. My lane is Christ.
@TheBadTrad@MetzUAC1530 I am Lutheran. We call ourselves Evangelical Catholics, but you would not agree we are Catholics in spite of the meaning of that word.
In my opinion, the only churches that are real hold to the creeds full stop; Anglican, Lutheran, Orthodox and Roman churches.
@TheBadTrad@MetzUAC1530 You do not understand Sola Scriptura at all.
We hold to the creeds, not because the church said they were good but because they are from the scripture.
Sola Scriptura is the notion that the scripture is the only infallible source, so deviation from scripture is unsupported.
@TheBadTrad@MetzUAC1530 I would believe in primacy, not eminency. You believe in palpal eminency, my position is closer to that of the Eastern Orthodox.
@TheBadTrad@MetzUAC1530 Primacy is not equivalent to eminency in any case.
When i say everyone, i mean the real churches. Sola Scriptura still requires a formal church body, the point of it is to ensure that the formal teachings of the church follow with what we find in scripture.
@TheBadTrad@MetzUAC1530 Sola Scriptura is not self refuting, and does not rely on any one man. The interpretation of scripture is generally agreed on by everyone, its when we add stuff that the issue comes in. The scriptures do not imply papal eminency, obviously there must be leaders and ‘Shepards’.
@TheBadTrad@MetzUAC1530 Why would we worship a man, when we worship the creator of man.
Why would we submit to a man, when we submit to the creator of man.
Our confession is submission to Holy Scripture. Your confession is submission to a man, a See that has been known to fail.
@telesynth_hot@CoreyJMahler I disagree, even excluding the last two phrases it does not imply that we should destroy our nation for the sake of vile creatures.