@Alan_Couzens Yes. But itโs also linked to their pay structures. Theyโre incentivized for the short term so they throw eggs at the wall (a la Sutto).
Many โold schoolโ ones donโt / canโt read a blood test or health metrics whatsoever
@Alan_Couzens I donโt disagree but thatโs how coaches look at it. Iโve spoken to over 20 coaches working with Illinois federations over the years and itโs a unanimous view: โwe get paid for performance and nothing elseโ. They donโt even care about the longevity of that performance
@Alan_Couzens Yep. And cracking this is a big contributor to the massive jump in cycling performance weโve seen in the last few years (not completely discounting other possibilities)
@Alan_Couzens Data doesnโt lie. n=1 but for me but itโs consistent: dinner within 2 hours of bed ==> significant drop in Deep Sleep (Oura & Garmin consistently agree on this).
Conversely eating too far from bed (4h) ==> not enough REM (more times spent Awake in the second half of the night)
@drcateshanahan No universal solution. Iโm 46, Ironman & ultramarathoner. Also lift weights (heavy). Lean. 55VO2max. 42 RHR. Trig 50, LDL 60, HDL 100. All blood markers good. Sleep well. Eat clean. BUT hypertensive. The ONLY thing that keeps it in check is cutting salt. people react differently.
@ellulie_@nntaleb In my experience (own training & coaching athletes) yes. For the same type of workout, you have to produce more force indoors, causing more muscle fatigue. Also most people drop their cadence indoors vs outdoors making this worse
@nntaleb Iโll try again: fatigue can be caused by either cardiovascular fatigue or muscles becoming too acidic. If a muscle is untrained, it becomes acidic at lower level of stimulus causing fatigue BEFORE it works hard enough to โฌ๏ธ CO2 which โฌ๏ธ heart rate.
@nntaleb Because youโd be limited by the ability of the muscle to exert force. It doesnโt produce enough force to tax the cardiovascular system. This is why (for example) cyclists trying indoor cycling for the first time cannot get their heart rate up: they are limited by muscular fatigue
@ashort__c@Alan_Couzens@ouraring Also, Iโve been dealing with some health issues (bronchitis) past 2 weeks, and as I felt worse, my RHR was rising even though my HRV was also rising. I could push through a workout with low HRV & low RHR but not the opposite (felt worse with high RHR despite better, higher, HRV)
@ashort__c@Alan_Couzens@ouraring I tracked watts/HR (avg) and plotted against HRV & RHR & RPE. Correlation was highest with RHR and RPE and RPE tracked RHR much more closely than HRV