@jphayes21@luke_mccown I said I was mistaken. Intellectual dishonesty would mean I looked into it, see contrary evidence ignore it and continue to maintain my same position without adjusting. I may have been incorrect but you my friend may not be intellectual.
@jphayes21@luke_mccown Bro, look into Christian martyrdom. Obviously starting with Jesus, all of his apostles. And thousands of Christians. Nero Cesar was killing Christians for sport. This is Roman history not religious text. GTFOH
Don’t try to dunk on someone who is intelligent who is willing to concede a point on an argument. Most people don’t admit when they were incorrect. Especially on this app.
I was incorrect the more experts believe it wasn’t than not. But it’s nowhere near 100% and it’s still highly debatable with facts and evidence supporting both sides. It would be a hung jury in court.
That’s poor form by you.
It’s not intellectually dishonest because I still believe it to be true. Here’s my logic, no matter who the writer is, which I still believe to be original authors. It was relatively close to the lifetime of Jesus. If it’s 50-80 years than there were many alive who were alive during the time of Jesus.
Question you have to intellectually honestly asked yourself is, would all these people who were tortured and killed for their beliefs (both by Roman Empire Cesar Nero and by their own Jewish community) for something so questionable? Word would get out pretty quick by many at the time that Matthew didn’t really write Matthew but it was Joe the black smith down the street.
In addition, I have a relationship with Jesus personally and his character matches that of whom I read in the Gospels. And if God isn’t capable of keeping his essence true despite man’s attempt to disrupt it, than how big a God is he?
@ErwanLeCorre I see people driving up and down the street with a mexico flag and I just couldn’t imagine moving to Mexico and hoisting an American flag.
Just seems like such an A hole thing to do. If I loved it enough to live there if anything I’d rock a Mexican flag
So here’s the history: (recorded by Roman Empire not Jews)
Jesus started a movement, Jewish leaders conspired with Roman Government to have him killed. The movement had leaders who spun off a new teaching (or religion) based on Jesus message. The Roman Empire destroyed the Jewish temple. All those leaders and many followers of the new teaching were torchered and killed for their beliefs.
But you think they were willing to be tortured and killed in hopes that thousands of years down the road, gentiles would be controlled by the group that killed them?