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Bottom-Up is better than Top-Down will ever be.

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@AiBattle_ Qwen doesn't make open weight models anymore though?

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@bridgemindai @bridgebench You just replied to yourself?

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@X13T91 @Alibaba_Qwen Okay but the weights aren't open so its just a worse sonnet...

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@Alibaba_Qwen Your lack of communication about opening the weights for larger models just makes me use other options.

This is NOT the same Qwen that everyone liked and said good things about.

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@YeZhuorui40987 Their next closed source release?

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@Teknium It's not Open Source though?

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@jun_song Great! More small models for me to ignore so I can keep using MiniMax and Mimo

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@ChujieZheng Is it just small and medium size models again?

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@karminski3 Not open weights = don't care.

DeepSeek V4.1 will make Qwen pointless, now other labs are focusing on vision and Qwen is closed source.

It's become irrelevant to 99% of the community who praised it.

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@mr_r0b0t All closed source so hard to be interested in these models.

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@Alibaba_Qwen I am yet to see you Open Weight a large model since 3.5, and you are purposely being vague.

Can you just clearly state which models from this series you are releasing the weights for?

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@Alibaba_Qwen @arena So are you releasing larger models in the 3.7 series now or is this another closed source model?

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@SkylerMiao7 Any hint on size compared to M2.7?

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@Alibaba_Qwen @NousResearch Does this mean 3.6 397B will be released?

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@Alibaba_Qwen Hard to be an ambassador when I use local AI and haven't got confirmation the weights will be open for larger models.
Hard to support what I can't download.

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@Alibaba_Qwen Does that get us access to 3.6 397B?

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@XiaomiMiMo https://t.co/rTKcNBCZ8b

I have just tested the model on the web-ui and this is the chat, the thought looping seems to be an issue with the actual model?

Is this a known issue internally?

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@XiaomiMiMo Can you address the issues people are having with looping when self hosting?

We have been investigating for a few days now and would love to have a communication channel?

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@0xSero Doesn't it have major issues with thought loops when you get it to write code?

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@AmazingNature00 @IrisMemoryLab I thought you were a cat though?