Tupur Sen

[Tupur Sen @TupurSen]

@Afghan_DNA Interestingly, this ancient sample is in a cousin clade H-Z34496 and has an ANF/Caucasus related ancestry without any Indic component.

Also, in Yfull term it would correspond to H1b (being descendant of H-Z5867, while H1a indicates H-M52 clades).

[A.T.M. Saeb @DrAmrSaeb]

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Genetic Profile Summary – Individual https://t.co/0kFm5rgvbX

This individual is a male with a strong West Asian genetic background, shaped by deep ancient ancestry from Anatolia, the Caucasus, and surrounding regions.

1. Direct Lineage (Y-DNA)

His paternal lineage belongs to a very old branch of Haplogroup H (H-Z34496 / H-FT342587).

This is an ancient West Eurasian male lineage with deep prehistoric roots.

It does not point to a single historical population or migration event, but rather to a very early branch that has survived in low frequencies across West Asia and nearby regions.

2. Maternal Lineage (mtDNA)

His maternal line belongs to Haplogroup H20a.

This is a rare and ancient mitochondrial lineage originating in West Eurasia.

It likely formed in or near the Near East and later spread into Anatolia, the Caucasus, and parts of Southern Europe.

Today it appears at low levels across Mediterranean and West Asian populations.

3. Deep Ancient Ancestry

His autosomal DNA reflects a mixed West Asian ancestral foundation formed during the transition from hunter-gatherer to early farming societies.

His ancestry is mainly composed of:

Caucasus-related ancient populations (~39%)

Early Anatolian farmers (~25%)

Levantine hunter-gatherer ancestry (~17%)

Ancient northern Eurasian ancestry (~11%)

Small East Asian–related farmer ancestry (~7%)

This combination reflects early population mixing across the Near East, Caucasus, and surrounding regions thousands of years ago.

4. Modern Genetic Affinities

Today, his genetic profile is closest to populations from:

Eastern Anatolia (Turkey)

Kurdish populations across the region

Azeri populations in Iran and the Caucasus

Other nearby West Asian groups

Overall, his genetic makeup fits within the broader Anatolian–Caucasus–Iranian regional continuum.

🔬🗒️ Final Summary

Individual https://t.co/0kFm5rgvbX has a deeply rooted West Asian genetic profile. His paternal and maternal lines both trace back to very ancient West Eurasian lineages, while his overall ancestry reflects long-term continuity in the Anatolia–Caucasus–Iran region with contributions from surrounding ancient populations.

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[The Indian Index @IndianIndex]

In 1941, Bengaluru was smaller than Agra, Kanpur and Nagpur.

(Fwded)

[Tupur Sen @TupurSen]

@GamerEQ7 Yes, it astounds me when I see most of these guys brag how their ancestors killed other people and raped others' wives. These are deeply ingrained barbaric tendencies but when they encroach historical/scientific enquiries like genetics it becomes abominable. Trash ideas.

[Tupur Sen @TupurSen]

Exactly, anything you had no control in having (ancestry, genes, looks, childhood economic condition etc.) should not be a matter of pride/shame, forget achievement. Achievement is something you DO, not what you INHERIT.

[Game_Boy @GamerEQ7]

South asian adna community is deeply enslaved. They treat high steppe as some kind of achievement. Most of them have trash views and wouldn't be surprised if they are absolute trash even as a human being.

[Tupur Sen @TupurSen]

@oag0123412 I wonder. Probably unresolved, i.e., K can be L1 or R2, and F* can J or H.

[Tupur Sen @TupurSen]

Katelai and Loebanr had most diverse set of haplos among Gandharan Swat sites.

Katelai: R2, H1a, L1a2, J2a, E1b1b, I2a, K, R1a

Loebanr: R2, L1a2, J2b, R1a, C1b, F*, Q2b, Q1a

Saidu Sarif: R2, L1a2, R1a, Q2b

Butkara: R2, J2a, J2b

Udegrama: E1b1b, J2a, R1a

(contd...)

[Tupur Sen @TupurSen]

All E1b1b (except one) were in Udegrama, and all I2 were in Katelai, similarly all J1b were in Butkara. They had the same subclade barring one or two exceptions.

These indicate founder effects, probably some migrant families residing there.

[Tupur Sen @TupurSen]

Compiled from https://t.co/n0wkV449NF

[Tupur Sen @TupurSen]

R2: 5 (Loe, Kate, Alig, Butk, Saidu)
R1: 5 (Loe, Kate, Ude, Saidu, Bari)
L1a2: 4 (Loe, Kate, Alig, Saidu)
H1a: 3 (Kate, Bari, Gog)
J2a: 3 (Kate, Butk, Ude)
Q2b: 2 (Loe, Saidu)
E1b1b: 2 (Loe, Ude)
J2b: Loe
J1b: Butk
Q1a: Loe
I2: Kate
K: Kate
C1b: Loe
F*: Loe
G2a: Alig

[Tupur Sen @TupurSen]

R2 was the most ubiquitous deep haplo in Gandharan Swat. Among the 8 sites (Loebanr, Udegram, Katelai, Aligrama, Butkara, Saidu Sarif, Barikot and Gogdara), R2 appears in 5 sites.

R1 is also in 5 sites but samples are newer.

[SARVARYA 🍃🌿 @Sarayu_dweller]

"vishuvriddha" in saryupareen brahmans
Many families belongs to this in vindhya

[Tupur Sen @TupurSen]

@NomadicBrahmin Who are they to challenge you?

And btw H-Z5889 is not H2.

[Tupur Sen @TupurSen]

@NomadicBrahmin Why be defensive about H1 in the first place? It is one of the IVCp haplos and likely one of the 3 ANI haplos (along with R1 & R2). If you don't mind sharing ancestry with Papuans/Andamanese 25k yrs ago, why should you care about shared ancestry with Gonds 40k yrs ago? Chill.

[Tupur Sen @TupurSen]

@Rashavandi Hm. Very interesting.

[Tupur Sen @TupurSen]

Brah-man(i).

Makes sense. 😊

[Amardi @Rashavandi]

Proto-Kurds are only KUR-MANI

Whereas foreigners are called by Proto-Kurds as following:

AT-MANI G2a people

AR-MANI R1b-Z2103 people

TUR(IK)-MANI R1a-Z93 people

BRAH-MANI H1a, L1b and J2a-M67

Kurds named this foreigners not KUR-MANI....

Because Kur-Mani means just Homo Sapiens and Hu-Man and in arabic it means Bani Nas (Insan), im turkish Insan Oğlu and Beni Adem in persian...

These groups are not of the monotheistic belief of proto-Kurds while Kur-Mani referring to "by god created"....

Proto-Kurds had been very accurate by defining foreigners by their customs, beliefs and traditions.... our forefathers clearly draw the line to foreigners!

That is also perfectly fitting with the Max-Planck-Institute's theory North-Iran being thr homeland of Proto-Indoeuropean language...

Arians, Sycthians and Cimmerians all the R1a and R1b-Z2103 and these Maykop derived G2a, J2a-M67 people have nothing to do with Proto-Kurds....

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[Tupur Sen @TupurSen]

@ibn_alhindi @ThirdWorldSEA I am not OITist at all and believe F diversified in Persian plateau. The thing is despite its inclination the paper talks about migration data pertaining to LGM which is important, whereas STR often gives wrong prediction which makes all subsequent discussion pointless.

[Tupur Sen @TupurSen]

Ust-ishim is K-M2308. It has only identified descendant K-M2335. The latter has two branches, one is K-Y28299 which is Indic (SAHG/GHG?), the other is NO. It is a matter of convention what you call K2a. Usually it's K-M2308.

K2a, K2b both were likely in paleolithic India.

[AnthroAdda @AnthroA36331]

I believe modern NO y haplogroup comes from a distinct branch that existed in South east or east asia . While the K2a in europe became extinct along with C1b

[Tupur Sen @TupurSen]

@beaker_the12224 @GamerEQ7 Hm, it opens at the time tree section as I guessed. Thanks a lot. 😊

[Tupur Sen @TupurSen]

@GamerEQ7 You mean these are available without login? 😳

Where in the website, is it the Time tree section which you find after you search for a particular haplo subclade?