I donโt think you understand my point, so let me put it this way:
Iโm not saying inoculations or vaccines played no role, because they did for certain diseases. But they werenโt the main driver of the big life expectancy gains we saw.
There were far more illnesses back then than available inoculations. Sanitation, clean water, waste disposal, food handling, and hygiene habits did the heavy lifting.
For example: The first water chlorination in the US started in 1908 in Jersey City. That (plus filtration and better habits) drastically reduced waterborne killers like cholera and typhoid decades before most vaccines. By the 1920s, we were already seeing sharp declines as clean water spread and people learned not to drink from the same pot they pissed in. (See https://t.co/gjca6j0ZHr for more information on water treatment history.)
Inoculations (what we now call vaccines) built on that foundation for specific threats like smallpox. Both mattered, but sanitation came first.
The invention of the water closet has nothing to do with it. Ancient Greeks has running water.
I'll bet you didn't know that about 15% of rural home owners did not have toilets and running water in 1974.
Adequate sanitation involves more than the invention of equipment, it involves access, knowledge, and application. Maybe the wealthy had the luxury of such items, but lower and middle classes, particularly during the Great Depression, did not have access to these things. And with the infamous stock market crash came dramatic increases in unemployment, homelessness and resulting increase in unsanitary conditions, which feeds diseases and vermin, which plays a role in spreading diseases.
Proper sanitation has not been around for centuries, and is a huge reason for the spread of typhus (typhoid fever). Same for TB.
Personal hygiene, proper food handling and storage, sterilization protocols for medical equipment and hands on care, proper rubbish removal, etc, all have caused drastic improvements in the control of infectious diseases in the 20th century alone, with many new protocols implemented during the recovery of the Great Depression. And so has the discovery of antibiotics, particularly Penicillin.
So to point towards vaccines as the reason for longevity is misleading. I think in their early years, especially, they played a significant role in stamping out certain diseases, but the more significant roles came from what I call the sanitation boom, starting in the 1930's.
We have plenty of male ones, too. Don't act like only one sex's ๐ฉis odor free. Men have overall led this country since it was founded, we have never had a woman for President, and just look at us today. It was men who came up with the Women's Liberation movement that misled women out of their homes and into the workforce under the false assumption of inequality. All that happened was that women still think they are unequal (moreso now than ever) and now the government gets twice as much tax revenue.
Good job, boys. ๐
He actually does make a good point aside from saying everyone died by the age of 35, but it was proper sanitation more than vaccines that increased the life human span. In the 1800s, there were innoculations, not vaccines. Very similar science, but no atenuated viruses.
That said, vaccines and innoculations work more on the whole using individuals, not the individuals using the whole. Contrary to popular medical myth, they are not for everyone, but are for most. Some peoples bodies can't handle them, and the spew about a person not getting as sick if they are vaccinated is nauseating. While it may be true for some, it is not true for all, and while serious vaccine injuries are considered rare, they do exist and are nothing to shrug off.
Today's vaccine sciences are reaching new lows, and I do not trust them because of all the talk about medical engineering. We are not lab rats, and forcing inadequately tested jabs on people is not something I go along with. The way the COVID vaccines were marketed was a big red flag to me. It became a circus side show, and if the powers that be feel the need to stoop that low to coerce a jab, then something's up and people should think twice about whether it's the right decision for them.
Astrophysicists aren't microbiologists or virologists. He needs to stay in his lane. He thinks everyone in 1840 was dead by the age of 35, assuming due to viruses. That's garbage.
While there were viruses, as there are today, there were many other factors driving lower life expectancy rates that were not "fixed" by vaccines, but by better hygeine and sanitation practices.
@VigilantFox "Fast forward to 1840โฆ everyone born in the world was dead by the age of 35. We gained five years of life expectancy. And every one of them ate organic, breathed clean airโฆ Science matters here."
Bullcrap.
@Neko4logix@aj_inapi Yes, Western civilization is being invaded and eroded. But that's not because of women. No woman is out there holding a gun to men's heads and forcing them to become effeminate and unprotective.
I find it strange that fully grown adults spend their time debating abortion as though they somehow entered the world differently from every other human being.
Every single one of us started the exact same way.
A sperm. An egg. A unique human DNA sequence. A developing human life.
That's not religion. That's not politics. That's basic biology.
Yet we're constantly told a series of increasingly absurd claims to justify ending that life.
๐น "It's just a clump of cells."
You are a clump of cells.
So am I.
The question isn't whether something is made of cells. The question is what kind of cells they are.
A human embryo isn't dog cells, cat cells, or tree cells.
It's human.
๐น "It's not a human."
Then what species is it?
There is no stage of pregnancy where a human mother is carrying a dolphin, a kangaroo, or a toaster.
The unborn child is human from conception.
The debate is about whether that human has rights.
๐น "It's not alive."
If it's not alive, why is it growing?
Why does it have a heartbeat, brain development, cell division, metabolism, and measurable biological activity?
Things that aren't alive don't develop.
๐น "It's my body."
Your body has your DNA.
The baby has its own DNA.
Your body may be female.
The baby may be male.
Two distinct human beings are involved.
๐น "It's just reproductive healthcare."
Removing a splinter is healthcare.
Treating cancer is healthcare.
The deliberate termination of a developing human life is a completely different moral question, which is why abortion remains one of the most debated issues on Earth.
๐น "Nobody should tell a woman what to do."
Society tells all of us what we can and cannot do when another human life is involved.
The entire debate comes down to one question:
When does a human life deserve protection?
Everything else is a distraction.
The reality is simple.
Every abortion supporter was once an unborn child.
Every politician arguing for abortion rights was once in a womb.
Every activist marching for abortion was once dependent on their mother for survival.
Nobody arguing this issue today would be here if someone had decided that dependence made them less human.
That's the uncomfortable truth at the center of the abortion debate.
You don't have to be religious to recognize it.
You just have to be honest enough to admit how every single one of us got here.
@TheEXECUTlONER_ Every entrance into that roundabout has a yield sign. Yield means wait until clear before proceeding. The car on the right entering into the roundabout was in the wrong.
My jaw literally dropped listening to this
Pastor Che Ahn is the pastor who was threaten with arrest and a $4.5 million dollar fine by Gavin Newsom for opening his church during Covid
He was told if he fights in jail DEMOCRATS WOULD ARREST HIS CHURCH MEMBERS
โThe Marxist playbook is to bankrupt you if you disobey and put you in prison. They were going to put me in prison. But what was really, really scary to see how how egregious and totalitarian they were, they said, when you're in jail and if you continue to meet, then we're going to arrest your church members. This is in the United States of Americaโ
Democrats must never gain power again
In 2020, Ahn and his church defied Governor Gavin Newsomโs restrictions on indoor worship
I confirmed officials threatened criminal charges, up to 1 year in jail for Ahn, daily fines and arrests of attendees of his church
He was only saved by the Supreme Court
The church sued, arguing the rules were unconstitutional, claiming discriminatory against religion. The case went to the US Supreme Court which issued rulings favoring religious freedoms