@SamSwimsQuickly@Cowboy_Larrie@pxielovee What does “dress like men” refer to? Men’s outfits of today? A hundred years ago? Two thousand years ago? What culture? In the West? East? What specific country? In the US? An African tribe? A Native American people group? Israelites? Indians? East Asian? South Asians?
@vrazyfella@grapefruitism@Asgoreisthegoat Why is it that you guys can’t use a more apt analogy like… a man walking around shirtless? Why do you immediately jump to, “letting his balls hang out,” as if testicles and breasts are comparable in this regard?
@danielh1484853@grapefruitism@Asgoreisthegoat No, because sharing your thoughts and feelings in that context refers to opening up emotionally, not, “I don’t want to maybe have a boner so you need to change your outfit.”
@7_7xxKitsune@grapefruitism@Asgoreisthegoat Then don’t stare. It’s not hurting you, nor anyone else. If you can’t stop yourself from staring, that’s an issue you need to work on. No one is forcing you to look. You can always walk away or go somewhere else.
@incxlchud@dwecayedgirl@grapefruitism@Logician_TA This isn’t fully true. We don’t actually have 100% confirmation if we’re biologically meant to be sexually attracted to breasts. We also can’t reduce everything down to biology when we have media constantly reinforcing how sexual a woman’s breasts are.
@SigfriedLughson@GrayestLemon@__YMJ_@Fasces1933 And what part of, “That’s not her responsibility,” do you not get? At what point is it her responsibility to change herself because her brother MIGHT have a reaction? He can handle himself properly and wait for his erection to go away.
What’s so hard to understand?
@SigfriedLughson@GrayestLemon@__YMJ_@Fasces1933 But the worries are, “Your brother might react do you need to modify yourself for his comfort,” instead of teaching her son how to behave properly because it’s his body and he should know what to do, not demand others to change themselves for his sake.
@SigfriedLughson@GrayestLemon@__YMJ_@Fasces1933 Then stay away from the source. If I’m attracted to someone and I start blushing and I don’t want to blush, the response is not, “you must leave so I don’t react like that.” It’s “I will leave because this is my body and my reaction.”
Where does it become her responsibility?
I really hate referring to any of the ships between the beans as straight, gay or lesbian. I see them as being outside of any traditional sexuality label and they’re all undefined.
And no, I don’t think calling White x Green Yuri or Black x Cyan Yaoi fixes this.
brellow like idgaf that browns voice is deeper than how much I want them in me BRELLOW IS NOT HETERO AND THEY WILL NEVER BE STOP MAKINF THEM STRAIGHT @amonguscommunity
@SigfriedLughson@GrayestLemon@__YMJ_@Fasces1933 Why are you changing your argument? You said her clothing could be a factor. If it’s involuntary and can be triggered any number of things, why care about her clothing if it has no connection?
In any case, she is not responsible for what he does or feels.
@creekfren@GrayestLemon@Fasces1933 That is precisely the issue. “Normal home,” which is what? What you think is normal? What I think is normal? What a specific group thinks is normal?
What you’re doing is trying to find the definition of modesty to enforce your standards, but those standards are subjective.
@SigfriedLughson@GrayestLemon@__YMJ_@Fasces1933 So you acknowledge that the brother is looking at his sister and got sexually aroused and that’s her problem because?
You can’t have it both ways. If it’s involuntary, it’s not because of her clothing. If it’s because of what she’s wearing, her brother needs help.
@SigfriedLughson@GrayestLemon@__YMJ_@Fasces1933 This doesn’t address my point. If it’s involuntary, you can’t say she needs to change her clothing or cover herself because it’s not her body that’s causing the reaction. You can go deal with it in private and wait for it to go away. She is not required to change herself.
@HisNameWasRP@lyraelpha@StoicYield@GrayestLemon@Fasces1933 You’re still making false analogies. In your scenario, the brother doesn’t want to wear underwear. In the original, the sister is being told to cover up because her brother MIGHT have a reaction. These are not the same situations.
The answer is also to buy bigger underwear.
@creekfren@GrayestLemon@Fasces1933 Again, are you playing dumb? You’re forcing a binary that doesn’t exist. Not only do other cultures exist, meaning there is no one way to determine what is “modest,” but you can absorb social norms and reject them or modify them based on your own personal judgement.