"Là où fut institué le siège du bienheureux Pierre, et la chaire de la Vérité, là ils ont posé le trône de leur abomination dans l'impiété." Vision de Léon XIII
Il est difficile en lisant l'encyclique Mystici Corporis Christi du Pape Pie XII de ne pas penser à une certaine thèse qui voudrait que les modernistes dirigent l'Église juridique mais sans "la mission dite invisible du Saint Esprit"...
@Praxisdecombat Qu'en penses-tu ?
@Praxisdecombat Signé Horovitz, quelle surprise 😅 Non pas qu'un "clerc" moderniste aurait été incapable de pondre un tel texte mais venant d'un juif "converti" au modernisme c'est peu étonnant. Et il ose dire qu'on délire en le suspectant d'être un marrane 🤨
@FrDesouche Vous devez comprendre que la véritable église catholique est éclipsée depuis que les franc-maçons ont infiltré le Vatican. Ils sont parvenus à créer une fausse église, usurpant l'identité et occupant les édifices ayant appartenus à la vraie. Le Saint Siège est vacant depuis 1958.
« Nous devons faire l'éducation immorale de l’Église, et arriver, par de petits moyens bien gradués, quoiqu’assez mal définis, au triomphe de l'idée révolutionnaire par un pape. »
Prince Aspreno 1er Colonna (alias Nubius).
@FrLavery@TradCathSermons@D1870473838573@Soccermom013521 Fr. theologians really taught that a heretic elected to be pope but converting after would be pope indeed ? The Paul IV bull Cum ex apostolatus says that such a person would never be allowed to have a charge in the Church.
@austinemarie777@AbbeDutertre@WireCatholic No one can me submissive towards the living Pope where there is none. We can be faithful to the teaching of previous Pope, but thesists prefer to reject Mystici Corporis Christi and cherish their own little novelty. Your logic is deeply flawed. I'm done with you.
@austinemarie777@AbbeDutertre@WireCatholic You are intellectually dishonest, that's why it's a waste of time talking to you and most of thesists. Thesists believe there isn't NO sect separated from the Church, it follows that it is the Church to them and they are part of it.
@austinemarie777@AbbeDutertre@WireCatholic How could we be submissive to the Apostolic See when it's vacant ? Thesists are not submissive to the last pope teachings, but they will surely be of Leo XIV when he converts (soon) 😇
@austinemarie777@AbbeDutertre@WireCatholic You are wrong, once again. Thesists belong to the NO. Despite not being una cum, they consider them as the juridical part of the Church. They contradict Pius XII by saying that there can be an opposition between the juridical part of the Church and the mission of the Holy Ghost.
@austinemarie777@AbbeDutertre@WireCatholic "The excellent cook, without any harm". Sure, poison doesn't make any harm, especially when it is supposed to show us where's the Church. The greater part of "catholics" are fooled, but the real ones will understand.
@austinemarie777@AbbeDutertre@WireCatholic I grasped that you like to call confusion "fine philosophy", and I'm sure you're really proud of it... Thesists and people like you do a great harm to the Church, because you give credit to errors claiming that it would be high philosophy, when it's just erroneous speculations.
@austinemarie777@AbbeDutertre@WireCatholic What you call fine philosophy and theology is just sophistry. Guérard des Lauriers is responsible of his own creation. You are unable to condemn a cleric who poisoned the Church because he is held in high esteem...by those who perpetuate the same poison of which he is the cook.
@austinemarie777@STRCngr@FrLavery@FrDesposito They have indeed erroneous justification for not being in communion with the "pope elect", as they state that only a Church trial could declare them as imposters. All of their ecclesiology is defective. Could you stop praising the man who is behind this mess and his followers ?
@austinemarie777@STRCngr@FrLavery@FrDesposito Only God can judge the intention which is part of the internal forum. The only way to judge a false pope is the manifest heresy or a fraudulent election. So even this "brilliant" idea is nonsense.
@austinemarie777@AbbeDutertre@WireCatholic You are definitely not reasonable. Any cook caught preparing a soup countaining a poison would be in jail, but somehow you decide to praise this cook and his excellent cooking techniques, it's madness.
@austinemarie777@STRCngr@FrLavery@FrDesposito And none of us would be outside the modernist sect if their heresies were not manifest. That's the only certain argument and all the Guérard des Lauriers principles are false as he recognized himself in a small note.
@austinemarie777@STRCngr@FrLavery@FrDesposito Of course it needs to be declared by the Church... The correct answer is : it belongs to the Church to state wether they are really married or not, and not this yes and no confusion.
The analogy is not relevant for the Church for a manifest heretic cannot be Pope anyway.
@austinemarie777@AbbeDutertre@WireCatholic You make long statement but there's nothing solid in it. You opposed to St Bellarmine theologians that neither were canonized nor declared doctor of the Church. All you do is bring more confusion. You are obviously the one in need of clarification in his mind, sir.