If you have a wooden sign with the word FAITH painted on it, you learn nothing more about the meaning of the sign by using a microscope to analyze the wood fiber, paint composition, writing style, etc.
Don't lose the faith in the Gods for useless philosophy and deconstruction
@SegemarBernding@illyriusx Plato doomed Athens & the Greeks for 2000 yrs for forsaking the Gods
Platonism was only popular because the Romans used it as an underlying philosophy for their co-opted religion. Then Christians retconned it to make it more popular. It was never a thing until well after Plato
@SegemarBernding@illyriusx LOL. There it is. The Solas. Which sola is it? Hesiod? Homer? The Argonautica? Labour's of Heracles? The Classical myths? The art? The monuments? The Oracle's? The Omphalos? All contradict you. To hey are hardly a sola. Retard.
@SegemarBernding@illyriusx It doesn't matter that you believe or don't believe the myth, you just need to accept the story to understand it. Atomizing it or analyzing it ruins the point.
So yes, Pegasus and Medusa existed.
@SegemarBernding@illyriusx Platonism started Christianity, or at least the subversion that led to it. The heroes of myth did far less to incur the wrath of the Gods than Plato.
@versuscoelum@Aesiric_Media That is a view, yes and Platonists are free to follow it. The problem is you guys have to proselytize it all the time. My view, and the view of the Ancient Greeks, particularly from the Archaic period and places not named Athens, was that this view is impious.
@versuscoelum@Aesiric_Media There is no evidence I admit, but he was such an arrogant cunt, it is without a doubt he that wrote it. Even a follower of his would have to agree. He wouldn't have trusted anyone else to get it right.
@SegemarBernding@illyriusx 1. Hesiod and Homer are Gods inspired works acknowledged by ALL Greeks less a few gay philosophers. They are not just poems, but the syncretization of religious experience by Greek peoples
2. The notion that a human can judge the Gods is inherently impious. Ask Socrates.
@illyriusx As for literalism, you treat every play and piece of art as the same and ignore that degenerates existed in Classical Athens as degenerates pervade Hollywood now, subverting anything good. Maybe they are not all equal. Homer and Hesiod are the standard but not only sources
@illyriusx So worship of the Gods is conditional on your approval?
So you, and other Platonists, make yourselves the overlords of the universe and Gods subordinate to you, as you are their judge.
You're ridiculous.
The Philosophy Bros & Christians often say of the Old Gods, or True Gods, that they abandoned man in the face of the one god
This is false
Man failed the Gods and the Gods allowed fate to allow us to be overcome
They let weasel words corrupt the elite who forced the common man
@versuscoelum@Aesiric_Media Why would you believe the Gods do not have passions, desires and agendas to fullfil? It is preposterous to think that they do not.
Plato uses these concepts to destroy the faith in the Gods as worshipped since the dawn of man.
@versuscoelum@Aesiric_Media That's not what Plato says, and he did direct what to write. God-like was for Kings and heroes, not gay scholars. He also decrees that land shall be declared sacred, apparently at his say so. Bellerophon faced a worse fate for less.
@versuscoelum@Aesiric_Media Also, the One, the source of all must accept creation of evil. It is the source of all after all, including the "lesser" Gods.
@versuscoelum@Aesiric_Media Note: Plato calls himself divine on his epitaph. And if you think he did not write it himself, you don't know anything about Plato.
@versuscoelum@Aesiric_Media They are only the origin of things advancing his arguments and not those which contradict it.
Why can they not be the origin of evil things?
Plato invents the notion of evil as a thing rather than an unfortunate event, then claims the Word God created it.