@dumbmailguy @bikeleptic Has anybody ever told you you're an extremely unpleasant person? Like not just on Twitter, I feel like you'd be exhausting to know in real life too.
@ToneBombahawk @dumbmailguy Yes, I'm aware that even private carriers benefit in certain ways from the existence of federally-subsidized postal service. I'm just saying that in the limit, a self-funded service (with police!) that does nothing but deliver flyers is not what anybody wants.
@ToneBombahawk @dumbmailguy Hey, I can totally get on board with seeing mail service as the 1800s version of Hulu with ads, but that does tarnish the "miracle" somewhat.
And 99% of my mail arrives electronically or by private carriers, so the "benefit" accrues mostly to other people anyways.
@TommyMa95268002 @dumbmailguy Oh, I don't even care about that, I don't want *anybody* putting junk in my mailbox whether they're government employees or private salespeople.
The "best" defenses seem to be that junk mail funds the system, or separately, that filtering mail by quality would be a Bad Thing. π»
@bikeleptic @dumbmailguy And your phrasing is a bit tricky. I *can* print out something like that, and they would absolutely understand it, they would just have to ignore it.
@bikeleptic @dumbmailguy Sure, except:
https://t.co/m5oyAXM6os
At the very least, surely we can agree it's weird in abstract that a guy can walk up to my porch, see a sign saying "No Real Estate Flyers", and then give me three of themβand there's zero way to stop it.
@IBJDPCNT644 @dumbmailguy It's not my trash, it's the advertiser's and then the postal service's trash, they've just made some financial arrangement to leave it at my house, and I don't even get a cut for having to deal with it π.
And that's a fine suggestion, except:
https://t.co/m5oyAXM6os
@JonJitsu541 @dumbmailguy Of course, but that doesn't make it less weird.
If a guy was paid to walk up to me and just *say* things at my front door, even after I told him to stop, that would be harassment.
I can call my cell carrier and ask them to block a number, but there's no equivalent for mail.
@dumbmailguy You seem really irritated and that wasn't my intention.
I'm saying that without the social context of a "postal service", it's odd that a person just comes up to my house and puts things in it that I don't want.
And separately, it should be easier to stop junk mail.
No blame.
@vailrhodes @dumbmailguy Which itself is weird if you think about it.
Why, in the 21st century, is there no way to stop literal garbage from being deposited in your mailbox? It seems like we've totally given up and ineffective signs like this are the only option left.
@dumbmailguy Like, I get the logic of "mail carriers shouldn't make judgement calls", but that's a cop-out to a certain extent.
I could post a photo of a specific flyer that I *Do Not Want* and they'd still deliver that exact flyer to me.
Normally that would be some form of harassment.
@dumbmailguy There's a real underlying problem that they (and anybody else with a mailbox) are trying to solve thoughβ even if you know what a flyer is, and I know what a flyer is, somehow there is zero way to stop you from putting unwanted paper in a box on my porch.
It's just deeply odd.
@Navier_Tokes@CharlieBaranski@lilbabygandhi Literally saw one yesterday complaining that they walked into a store and two people were speaking Hindi to each other, but go off king. π
@MrMervius@TylerGlaiel Devs never really think about how often "it works on my machine" really just means "it works the way I use it".
Well-built software will accommodate a variety of environments *and* a variety of user behaviours.
@Beardballs@Morgan_C_Ross@valdombre No, it's "we're all immigrants and Canada turned out fine."
Racists will frantically flap their arms and try to point out differences, but they're only looking at first-generation immigrants, who have always been the most visible targets for people like them.
@GSawision@EveUnleashed@anotherglassbox Even assuming this microwaved dish of American politics and vomit has a single grain of truth, what does it tell you that municipal governments are so exasperated with your shit that they just don't allow it to be brought up, instead of some politician trying to capitalize on it?