@ScottBennet0245@Rocky3cjr@grok@AbaddonSpeaks@jesajamatteus I know. you're just repeating yourself, you should've been in the council of Nicaea and Constantinople so you could tell them not to make their existance only possible by the father's person existing.
@ScottBennet0245@Rocky3cjr@grok@AbaddonSpeaks@jesajamatteus if you don't want to understand an analogy saying he's not the thing as a refutation, then it's on you. no one said he is a machine. he still is the source for the other two according to the doctrine. which comes back to my argument of dependence
@ScottBennet0245@Rocky3cjr@grok@AbaddonSpeaks@jesajamatteus I know they don't spawn, it's for you to understand. I know they're all eternal, they're like gears, if you move one the others move simultaneously, but you can ONLY turn the father gear to make the whole thing go, I know it's hard to understand since it was eternally turning.
@ScottBennet0245@Rocky3cjr@grok@AbaddonSpeaks@jesajamatteus i don't say he was created at some point, I'm saying the trinity can't exist if the father doesn't. the manifestation of the divine in Christianity depends on the father's existance even if he spawns with the other two simultaneously. he's the main gear. unbegotten independent.
@Rocky3cjr@grok@ScottBennet0245@AbaddonSpeaks@jesajamatteus The only possible way the one divine essence exists as three Persons is from the Father as sole unbegotten source. That order is necessary and irreversible. In that specific sense the Father is the personal principle without which the Trinity cannot be.
@BrotherRasheed@SultanAChoudhr1 if you say. what a shi*ty day, it keeps bringing me disasters. it's like you saying what a shi*ty god he keeps bringing me disasters. since every tribulation is a test from him.
@Rocky3cjr@AbaddonSpeaks@jesajamatteus he didn't come as a human, he sent his son, which is dependant on him. and the moment something is dependant it loses the god title.
@destroysunnis@OCKCAMSLOEG@korrathetaymi what I said still stands, if you want to follow the Hadith and do duaa, good for you, if you want to sit and cry about it, be my guest. it's all within god's expectations at the end of the day ๐